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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Unless they are crossing the US border they don't need to be vaccinated unless their employer requires it.

    The US now requires truckers to be vaccinated as well.

    Most people in Canada who are eligible are vaccinated.

    Feedlots are going to run out of feed and the "vacationing" truckers are driving to Ottawa?

    The vast majority of people have had enough of the anti vaxer nonsense. They will not support antivaxer truckers who refuse to work in a crisis.

    The fact that the gofundme page has already raised 2.4 mil tells me that they have overwhelming support. This may balloon to something we have never witnessed before! You best get in your basement

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      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      How is it truck drivers who are in short supply because of many reasons feel its a good use of their time and resources driving across Canada when they should be doing their job instead of adding to the shortage of trucks. Do they think they should be taking a vacation in the middle of a crisis? Who are these truckers who have so much time to do nothing but protest for a week or two?

      The vast majority of people support covid vaccines and mandates. If some truckers don't like it, they can complain to their MLA or MP or whoever they want.
      They should rename it to the "BLM" convoy.

      All good than right?

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        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
        It will be sad to see how many get ill travelling in this unvaxed convoy. Presumably they will stop and interact. I really feel sorry for these duped individuals. They were conned into the evils of vaccines by the likes of burn it.
        Let it go. This convoy is officially against vaccinations which I think is dumb but it is more about relevant issues with where this country is headed unofficially. This is bigger than Covid itself. If you’re willing to jump on the Trudeau descent into a socialist hell then by all means give er but you are starting to sound sanctimonious.

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          Can someone with the means, please post some numbers? Scottish Covid deaths for example? The vax is a colossal failure.

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            Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
            Let it go. This convoy is officially against vaccinations which I think is dumb but it is more about relevant issues with where this country is headed unofficially. This is bigger than Covid itself. If you’re willing to jump on the Trudeau descent into a socialist hell then by all means give er but you are starting to sound sanctimonious.
            If you are worried about the direction of the country, that fair game, but protesting vaccines is not winning argument. Not sanctimonious just a believer in science that says these vaccines are effective and safe. Even if you question the degree of effectiveness don't get stuck on the phony freedom argument. This was the same idiotic argument FFJU used. But it was only about their greedy self interest. It is not a hill you want to die on . No pun intended.

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              Originally posted by jwab
              “ What is clearly evident both from the hospitalizations and deaths is that the double-vaccinated are now worse off per capita even against critical illness, and that pattern appears to be accelerating.”

              “ Israel 🇮🇱, the only quadruple-vaxxed country in the world (also using mask mandates and Covid passports), just broke global record for daily Covid cases”

              Plenty of stats for the haters here.

              https://americanfaith.com/covid-case...alth-scotland/
              That's why Scotland is recommending boosters because they are so ineffective. DUH!

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                Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                If you are worried about the direction of the country, that fair game, but protesting vaccines is not winning argument. Not sanctimonious just a believer in science that says these vaccines are effective and safe. Even if you question the degree of effectiveness don't get stuck on the phony freedom argument. This was the same idiotic argument FFJU used. But it was only about their greedy self interest. It is not a hill you want to die on . No pun intended.
                I agree with you here for the most part but like I said before this is more than about Covid for why there is so much support for it. Do I personally agree with the official reason for it? No. Like I’ve said ad nauseum here I have personal experiences which show the vaccine works. I am done trying to change peoples minds who think otherwise. This convoy is a protest about government policy which shoot’s ourselves in the foot. People are looking for a means to protest against a government which is getting it wrong governing our domestic affairs.

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                  Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                  That's why Scotland is recommending boosters because they are so ineffective. DUH!
                  Because like you, they are obtuse and cant admit they were wrong. The evidence is right in front of your eyes if you would open them.

                  Some day your grandkids will ask you about the great scamdemic of 2021. You arent going to have a good answer.

                  Why did 2M canadians not get a second shot? Just became antivax out of the blue?
                  Last edited by jazz; Jan 23, 2022, 14:25.

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                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Because like you, they are obtuse and cant admit they were wrong. The evidence is right in front of your eyes if you would open them.

                    Some day your grandkids will ask you about the great scamdemic of 2021. You arent going to have a good answer.
                    Right?

                    How can the leaders jump ship now? The only way to protect themselves is

                    A) to stick it out to the bitter end.
                    B) fess up, admit they were wrong, and accept responsibility.


                    Few if any are willing to accept responsibility.

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                      Originally posted by jwab
                      For the non readers….

                      Last line is the main take home …. Look where we are head rather than manipulating a snap shot in time.


                      “ Some will look at the chart and conclude that the boosters are amazing. But first it’s important to recognize that even the boosters don’t stop transmission at all even in the short run, and then, based on the latest hospitalization data, appear to wane just like the original shots. Relatedly, you will notice a pattern: the unvaccinated and two-dose cohorts always appear worse and the one-shot and three-shot cohorts always appear better. This is where the most important part of the data set comes into play.

                      You see, all cases during the first 21 days after the first shot are counted in the “unvaccinated” cohort, while the first 14 days after one receives the 3rd shot is counted among the two-dose cohort. See the definitions from Appendix 6 of the report.


                      We know from numerous studies (see here and here) that people are actually the most vulnerable to COVID during the first few weeks on the upswing of the antibodies, when T cells are likely suppressed. This is why the health departments smartly count them in the unvaccinated pile. Hence, for all these months, all the cases and deaths from those made more vulnerable from the first shot – which is caused by the mass vaccination, not the unvaccinated – are counted against the unvaccinated. Over time, as the shots waned on the back end, the truth became evident. Now they are starting the cycle all over again by making the two-dose group look even worse than they are by dumping all of the cases caused by the initial take-up from the third dose into the cohort of double-vaccinated. It’s the ultimate pandemic Ponzi scheme. Just wait another two months and see what the fourth-shot group looks like relative to the triple-dosers, as the immediate vaccination causes an even greater spike in cases. In other words, you have to look in totality where we are headed rather than manipulating a snapshot of time.”
                      So in other words get vaccinated. Thanks for clarifying that.

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                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        Unless they are crossing the US border they don't need to be vaccinated unless their employer requires it.

                        The US now requires truckers to be vaccinated as well.

                        Most people in Canada who are eligible are vaccinated.

                        Feedlots are going to run out of feed and the "vacationing" truckers are driving to Ottawa?

                        The vast majority of people have had enough of the anti vaxer nonsense. They will not support antivaxer truckers who refuse to work in a crisis.
                        i asked you if you wanted to make a bet on the support from canadians ???
                        -last count over 50k trucks at last count (12 trucks ,if you get news from the state broadcaster)
                        -over 2.6 Million (with an M) raised and growing fast
                        -freedom marches in many canadian cities yesterday

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                          Originally posted by caseih View Post
                          i asked you if you wanted to make a bet on the support from canadians ???
                          -last count over 50k trucks at last count (12 trucks ,if you get news from the state broadcaster)
                          -over 2.6 Million (with an M) raised and growing fast
                          -freedom marches in many canadian cities yesterday
                          I call Bullshit on the 50,000 trucks #. According to CTA there are approximately 120,0000 truckers in Canada, and your telling me 40% are driving in the protest. Logic and reason are not your forte.

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                            Nobody said they are all truckers.

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                              I’ll guarantee more than 50 thousand truckers want the turd flushed.

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                                Originally posted by Wheatking View Post
                                I call Bullshit on the 50,000 trucks #. According to CTA there are approximately 120,0000 truckers in Canada, and your telling me 40% are driving in the protest. Logic and reason are not your forte.
                                Somebody shit in you porridge ?
                                Nobody said semis
                                Look at the pics on any newscast except CBC
                                Lots of vehicles , pilot trucks etc
                                But I didn’t count them just took it off a newscast
                                I have stated I am not much of a marketer , but usually not bad with the logical reasoning
                                Hope rest of your day goes better

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