If you pay for the CWB, you get to vote? Then I want my ballot.

[jdepape]

Wow wilagro
You're anti-regulation yet pro-CWB.
Just a bit of a contradiction, don't you think?

Btw - needing to be registered doesn't take away
your freedom to choose who you deal with.

Licences do not equate monopolies.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

I call your bluff on the horse thing.

I can sell you one of my horses this afternoon... without any license or permission of the Alberta Government.

THis is simply NOT TRUE. Just like the 'single buying desk' of the CWB extracts a premium... by confiscating my families grain... at less than market price... will NEVER get us a premium prices for that grain...

What are they feeding you up there Wilagro? Are you drinking 'special' single desk water... ???

[TOM4CWB]

Wiagro,

Just for you. I checked the ALMA web site... Horses are not even listed for future regulation... let alone a requirement enforced now.

Here is the latest AB AG notice on horse desease:



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A case of nEHV-1 with neurological symptoms was confirmed in a Southern Alberta horse. The horse is isolated and is recovering.
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“While news of this case has been reported on many websites and internet blogs, it is important for Alberta horse owners to have correct information about this equine disease,” says Dr. Gerald Hauer, Chief Provincial Veterinarian. “We want horse owners to be aware of the current situation, and to understand what this virus is and how they can protect their horses. Albertans also need to be assured that this virus poses no human health risk.”

Equine Herpes Virus -1 is a contagious disease of horses that has been around for a long time. The classical form of the disease causes respiratory disease, abortions in mares and rarely neurological (brain and spinal cord) disease. In the past few years, a new strain of the virus has emerged in North America that is more likely to cause severe disease symptoms. The new strain is called neuropathogenic or neurotropic Equine Herpes Virus -1, nEHV-1.

“nEHV -1 can be spread directly between horses through the nasal secretions of infected horses,” says Hauer. “The disease can also be transferred indirectly by equipment and people, although again, it poses no human health risk.”

The best practices to protect your horses from this and other infectious diseases are to follow sound biosecurity practices. These practices prevent the spread of infectious disease. Best biosecurity practices include: •hand washing in between handling individual horses
•no sharing of equipment and feeding utensils between horses
•changing your clothes and footwear after handling sick equines
•disinfect any environment and equipment exposed to sick equines (stalls, trailers, tack)
•monitor your horses closely for signs of infection (fever, loss of appetite, nasal discharge, lethargy, etc.)
•if your horse is not well, call your veterinarian to determine the cause of illness
•prevent exposure of your horse to sick horses
•vaccinate your horses against common infectious diseases – while vaccinations don’t specifically protect horses against nEHV-1, they do prevent other diseases and make your horse more likely to remain healthy
•speak to your veterinarian about the vaccines you should use on your horses
“People can continue to enjoy equine activities if they apply some simple precautions for keeping horses healthy,” says Hauer. “Horse owners are encouraged to contact their local veterinarian to discuss their concerns regarding nEHV-1 and biosecurity practices.”

To learn more about equine biosecurity, visit the Alberta Agriculture and Rural Development website. As well as general information on biosecurity, there is species specific biosecurity protocols for the industry. On the website, you can also access the Equine Biosecurity Principles and Best Practices Guide.

Contact:
Office of the Chief Provincial Veterinarian
780-427-3448
Fax : 780-415-0810


There is NO mention anywhere about a tracability program requirement... or premises requirement for Horses.

[wilagro]

A premises ID is required on the invoice or Bill of Lading Tom.

[TOM4CWB]

NOT on any of my Transport Bills required for private horse movement.

[TOM4CWB]

Just for you Wilagro:

(Consolidated up to 101/2008)
ALBERTA REGULATION 313/2002
Traffic Safety Act
BILL OF LADING AND CONDITIONS OF
CARRIAGE REGULATION
Application of Regulation
2 This Regulation does not apply to the following:
(f) goods that are owned by the person who is the owner of
the commercial vehicle that is transporting the goods.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_313.pdf

[wilagro]

Tom...of course you can sell me a freakin horse...but I have 30 days to register with ALMA for a premises ID number if I don't have one.

Horses ARE on the list...I have the application right in front of me. The list of animals that ALMA requires a premises ID for is as long as your arm. When and if I apply, I will check off all of them...that should confuse them a bit.

It doesn't spell out the PENALTIES for NOT having a premises ID but most likely a warning letter and then a fine if one doesn't comply. Maybe they would seize the horse as well and make it talk and tell them where it came from. Ahahahahahahahahahaha

[charliep]

Just curious if this is a marketing issue or a traceability one. With issues like BSE,
foot and mouth, the thinking is Alberta needs the ability to monitor where animals
are going. Good or bad open for discussion but don't understand the relationship
with single desk/the ability to tell all farmers to sell through one organization.
Crop traceability is already in place through the commercial elevator system/CGC
licensed facilities. Someone will correct me but samples are retained in elevators to
check on varieties, chemical residue, etc. Already apart of the Canada Grains. Not
on farm to farm/feedlot/feedmill but that may come.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro...

Ahhh they snuck another regulation in while I was not watching!

Thanks for bringing this to my attention... (not really?) surprised now my local my MLA Douggie G didn't bring this up... when he passed this regulation on his watch... and did NOT even discuss it with his own directors or farmers?

WHAT a deal. They will stop west nile virus this way.. we get to register all the mosquitoes and alert the AB gov. when they fly on and off the farm!

Why don't dogs count... as they can get west nile to?

I will forever be thankful you let me know!

Cheers!