M.A.I.D.

[chuckChuck]

What taxpayers money? Dying with dignity is funded by donations. Not government or George Soros!

That is just another attempt by anti MAID folks to criticize MAID.

"Dying With Dignity Canada is the national human-rights charity committed to improving quality of dying, protecting end-of-life rights, and helping people across Canada avoid unwanted suffering."

[goalieguy847]

No chuck. You are a bit off here. MAID itself is infact covered by canadian healthcare and therefore...taxpayer money.

The ads in question were NOT.

But serious question to all the social conservatives out there...

With MAID deaths often ( about 45% of the time) taking care in a persons own home... and usually ending their life before a long, serious hospital stay happens..... isnt that alot less tax dollars going toward 1 person than it would be to pay for their hospital stays and long term care?
hint : IT IS!

Infact... a study done by the Canadian Medical Association journal found that MAID could reduce the tax burden by 10s of millions across canada annually due to reducing extremely high end of life care for terminal patients *treating cancer is incredibly expensive*

So heres the number.... a single MAID death to administer costs UNDER 3000$ in actual taxpayer funds. That includes consults.. pharmacy fees...administration costs...3000$ all in.

Cost to treat and maintain a semblance of life for a terminally ill patient? Sheesh. Impossible to even add up all the costs.
BUT for an uninsured person to stay in the ICU for a day its roughly 5 k. PER DAY.

So..furrow... you, as a champion of tax payer money, should infact be CHEERING for tax dollars to be spent on MAID rather than trying to maintain that life as long as possible.

Incredibly ( and logically) its cheaper !

so.. lets just review here.

80 % of MAID deaths are terminal cancer patients.
40% are killed at their own home.
It is empathetic. It is A progressive societal move to allow people to choose how they die.
and best of all .. ITS F*cking CHEAPER.


Anymore concerns here or are we about done?

Thats what i figured.

NEXTTTTTT

[Landdownunder]

Reasonably easy here I believe.

Must be of sound mind.

Must have 6 months or less to live.

Nationwide, over 7,200 Australians have chosen Voluntary Assisted Dying (VAD) since it was first legalized in Victoria in 2019. These assisted deaths account for a tiny fraction (between 1%-)3%) of all deaths nationally each year

Bit confusing the costing but im suggesting its free but maybe specialists involved in approval process are not.

[Landdownunder]

Hopefully this doesnt come across as nasty heartless insensitive, and most of you guys respect me bar one and will see it the way intended.

Mom passed in April basically there the last week 8 hours a day last two stayed at hospital, but last night was a bit heavy even for me, moaning groaning crazy breathing occasional sort of shout out. Were as my dad he just went to sleep or sort of coma for a day way more peaceful. He had cancer.

But I did think shes probably got a half day or day, cant they just finish her off medically.

Different scenario than MAID or VAD

Hopefully haven't offended anyone.

[chuckChuck]

Nobody wants to watch a love one suffer when the end result is inevitable.

MAID brings some comfort and control to those who are worried about their own end of life suffering.

[TSIPP]

Maybe goalie guy should put a helmet on stopping pucks, I don’t see anyone complaining about maid, when they start bringing out maid for 12 year olds because they’re sad and without parental consent that’s gonna be a problem for most…

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The saddest part about all of this is that a former rich first world country has so mismanaged our resources and squandered our opportunities that we can no longer afford a modern medical system. With the result that we are now having this discussion based on economics.

[blackpowder]

I reread Farmas' question.
No, to advertise is distasteful.
Info available at care facilities enough.
The odd case of a non terminal person using it is sad but depression that bad and chronic terminal I suppose. I don't agree with that.
Severe chronic issues not immediately life threatening another issue. Have an elderly aunt and uncle talking about it.
That's a courage I likely don't have.
Death is the most personal question we'll ever have and only we can answer it when it's time.
A different approach to end of life home care a great start.
Why do we have to get sent far away to a large institution?
Both my parents had to be given the peace needle.
What they weren't given was dignity or respect.
That's another story and a system failure.
As with a few other health care topics, our society has some maturing to do.

[farmaholic]

Rhetorical comments....

Society and the medical systems have been playing God for many many decades(centuries) And don't call me an extreme right wing social Conservative... I'm the furtest thing from it on the right. Trying to keep people alive who would never survive without medical intervention... all the way from early in life to end of life. "Quality of life" Suffering is uncomfortable for the afflicted and close ones who have to witness it. The goal is to keep the sufferer as comfortable as possible, at a certain point, to a point they probably don't even know they're there. I never said I was adamantly against it, under the right circumstances I would maybe choose it as an option myself. But I question the public "awareness" promotion. Anyone who is that terminally ill will probably be under the care of the health system, can't it be presented as an option under those circumstances? I firmly believe the health care system doesn't take the option lightly and give free passes. I'm sure there's afew boxes that need to be checked before someone is given that choice. So if society thinks its OK to expedite death near the end, is the next step to deny care to people with a poor outcome from treatment?

I too know someone who chose M.A.I.D. 8 years ago this fall. I was completely taken aback when I heard it. I knew government was discussing it but I never knew it was legal when he opted for it. He had ALS(Lou Gehrig's Disease), supposedly not fun in the late stage progression of the disease.

[LEP]

As you reach the final stages, it's been my experience that a person is given plenty of information about it.

I suspect the advertising is more about influencing public opinion towards it.