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UNDRIP and the Chaos Unfolding in B.C.

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  • furrowtickler
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 22207

    #11
    Treaties were signed and billions upon billions of extra money already paid out . Nothing was stolen when treaties were signed
    When is enough enough ?

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 13066

      #12
      All the promises under the treaties were never full filled and all the land claims are still not settled.

      They were starved onto reserves in many cases and did not have the vote till 1960.
      And furrow you think they were treated fairly?
      • Up until 1960, Indigenous peoples in Canada did not have the right to vote in federal elections, unless they were willing to give up their 'Indian' status through enfranchisement.
      • Enfranchisement was the process of stripping Indigenous people of their Indian status to gain citizenship rights instead.
      • Prior to 1960, laws around voting contained several qualifications that voters needed to have and many of these automatically excluded Indigenous peoples (such as owning property, British citizenship, being a taxpayer, etc).

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 22207

        #13
        A lot has changed from everything you posted
        Where did I say they were treated fairly??
        You are a spin master , a lot has changed since 1960 , and billions upon billions more has been paid out since and reconciliation has been going on for a decade already .
        Last edited by furrowtickler; Mar 22, 2026, 08:11.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 13066

          #14
          Yeah and there is still lots to do.

          Including settling land claims, building resource sharing agreements, improving the lives of first nations and honoring the treaties and respecting the laws of our land even if you don't like the results.

          We know that there is still a lot of racist based resentment against first nations. Even though we are sitting on the benefits from treaty lands on the prairies.

          Its time to respect first nations and reconcile.

          The prevalent attitudes are the result of a lack of education on treaties and all the terrible things that happened to first nations people. The current generation are learning what happened.


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          • farmaholic
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 17487

            #16
            When in the future will non-indiginous Canadians not owe Indigenous people any more?
            At what point will they have been given the opportunity and economic boost to be self sufficient and non-reliant on Canadian taxpayers. At what point are they expected to be self reliant.

            There are definitely events that happened that made things impossibe for them to progress or assimilate, which will be seen as taboo in today’s mentality, but in essence that IS what is going to happen... but maybe on their terms. Reserves segregated them, residential schools was an ( ill conceived????? Albeit maybe a good intentioned) attempt to assimilate and educate a generation of them.

            Change is slow, slower if the ones it's supposed to affect don't embrace it. Both sides?

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            • farmaholic
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 17487

              #17
              Google who are leading FSIN...

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              • chuckChuck
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 13066

                #18
                So mismanagement of money is not uniquely a first nations problem is it?

                Just ask Danny Smith and Scott Moe.

                The former is trying to privatize health care so her insider friends can overcharge and make a lot of profit and Scott Moe's party turned a blind eye to corruption on the GTH and bypass land deals.

                Not to mention a Sask part MLA who owned motels charged the government higher rates for housing first nations people.



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                • Grain Farmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2025
                  • 686

                  #19
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  So mismanagement of money is not uniquely a first nations problem is it?

                  Just ask Danny Smith and Scott Moe.

                  The former is trying to privatize health care so her insider friends can overcharge and make a lot of profit and Scott Moe's party turned a blind eye to corruption on the GTH and bypass land deals.

                  Not to mention a Sask part MLA who owned motels charged the government higher rates for housing first nations people.


                  Delfect..because you can never agree with any post from other posters.
                  why are there so many poor 1st nations people?

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                  • chuckChuck
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 13066

                    #20
                    Because in many cases there are high levels of unemployment on and off the reserves, low levels of education and lots of social problems that make many of them unemployable.

                    There are also few jobs on most remote reserves.

                    Housing, education and healthcare and the standard of living are of lower quality on most reserves.

                    They have much higher levels of poverty as a result.

                    Poverty and social dysfunction creates a cycle that is hard to break out of.

                    Those of us who grew up in relatively well off stable families with more resources don't understand the cycle of poverty that marginalized groups experience.



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