UNDRIP and the Chaos Unfolding in B.C.

[sumdumguy]

United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.

British Columbians are reeling in disbelief as Eby signs away most of Richmond and waterfront to a band ( Musquem) with about 1400 members. Premier Eby first denies having any knowledge of the exercise. Land and property rights are being overturned, apparently with the blessing of government.

Other Indian bands are getting in-line to demand their, “ rights”.

There is You Tube article interviewing Thomas Isaac that gives a legal interpretation on how UNDRIP is being imposed on land and business owners in British Columbia.

People are shaking their heads in disbelief and asking, “ Are the basic tenets of this nation( property rights” being eroded?” Will we own nothing and be happy?

[TraderJoe]

what an absolute load of crap! these FN's need to realize that they are lucky to have anything. is there anywhere in the history of the world where the conquered people have been handed a ****ing fortune over and over to compensate for the land that was "stolen" from them? What the actual ****?!?! More often than not the conquered people were slaughtered and whoever was left assimilated. We are now going to reap what we sowed by being good to them...
The UN can go pound sand, they are a lefty pinko bunch of tools that we should not even be part of as they are completely useless in the world today.
And in BC, well, you morons voted for this even bigger moron, congratulations...

[blackpowder]

Reap what you sow.

Our society deserves every carbon tax and land give away it gets.
Years ago I saw a Chinese owned theme park with FN managers and Settler poop shovelers in our future.

What % kickback keeps your iron working up north??
What % exploration here Chinese companies??

Elbows up and light another doob, we're so damn good just being Canadian we don't need to do anything else. Our grandfathers put in the effort, hell we can coast now.

The 90 second brainwashing before any function in any public building (that my father and grandfathers built) becoming part of how we operate now.

How far does Truth and Reconciliation go before it becomes something else?

So seriously, how do we keep racism out of the conversation??

[blackpowder]

I mean really,
Vancouver a hub for laundering for generations.
Longshoremen racket now East Asian.

Most barbers in local city now cash only with their own ATMs.
Hockey bags come in every morning at 9. Most take $40-100 out for a $29 haircut.

Freeway shooting here last week.
Executed at 120k from the passing lane.

We earn safety and prosperity, we don't deserve it.
Watch the "average Canadian" fumble and avoid any questions about above. Trained stupidity.
Cultural mosaic still proudly taught in schools.
One national identity has nothing to do with skin color. Unity required for security.
Thank every talking mumu since Pierre.

Just stay quiet and don't think. Otherwise you're a racist.

[sumdumguy]

Not racist, it’s the facts. My cousin’s kids have 3 acres in Squamish, next on the list.

[fjlip]

"FN's need to realize that they are lucky to have anything"

How about compensation for jumping from STONE AGE to Industrial Age...like a time warp, instead of 1000's of years it actually takes?

Waiting for thank you's

[blackpowder]

Don't want it to turn into an us vs them.
Speak the truth.
Reconcile.

Then get to work on both sides.
Walking on eggshells has become the Canadian way. Pioneered by the French.
Payments have become an industry of it's own.
Just pay, it goes away. Till next time.
Eventually everyone loses.

As soon as the Chucks join in, it's no longer a discussion.

[chuckChuck]

"FN's need to realize that they are lucky to have anything" Another offensive racist argument from Trader Joe!

More racism and bigotry from Agrislly posters?. Typical hate filled misinformation.

You guys are sitting on treaty land that was taken from first nations for primarily the benefit of colonizers and settlers and you blame first nations for wanting to share in the prosperity? Unbelievable!

Typical agrisilly bullshit! You guys are an embarrassment to farmers and the country!

[chuckChuck]

2025 OSLER LEGAL OUTLOOK Reconciling Aboriginal title and private property rights on unceded land
December 4, 2025

Implications for property rights going forward


The legal and practical implications of these decisions raise important questions for governments, corporations, project developers and private citizens about the extent and validity of their property rights on unceded lands that are or could be subject to Aboriginal title claims. As these cases make their way through appellate courts or result in negotiated resolution, significant uncertainty will remain for those with competing interests or overlapping claims. Nevertheless, a few important concepts can be extracted from the jurisprudence to date.

First, the courts in Wolasteqey and Cowichan noted that neither Aboriginal title nor fee simple title is absolute. Aboriginal title is subject to a number of constraints, including that it is inalienable other than to the Crown. It is held communally. It cannot be encumbered or used in ways that will prohibit future generations from using it.

Likewise, there are limits to fee simple ownership. These include public policy restraints, common law restrictions such as the law of nuisance and statutory restraints such as family disinheritance and matrimonial property legislation. Other limits include environmental protection statutes, planning and zoning legislation, expropriation by the state, aeronautics legislation and the right of the Crown to minerals.

Second, the decision in Cowichan explicitly stated that Aboriginal title is not inferior to fee simple title rights. Rather, because of its sui generis nature and the fact that it predates colonization, Aboriginal title is a prior and senior right that burdens the land upon which fee simple interests have been granted. These rights can coexist, but the exercise of those rights will need to be reconciled.

Third, as discussed at length in Wolasteqey and Cowichan, negotiation will be essential to reconcile competing interests. Once the Aboriginal rights dispute is factually and legally determined, typically a negotiation and reconciliation phase will be triggered. Here, it is up to the Crown to reconcile competing interests through negotiation with Aboriginal groups. As part of this reconciliation process, the Crown will need to take into consideration affected fee simple title holders. This may be achieved through a variety of mechanisms. At one end of the spectrum is compensation to the Aboriginal title holder. At the other end is the introduction of expropriation legislation with reasonable compensation to fee simple title holders.

Looking forward to 2026
Courts have indicated that reconciliation of Aboriginal title and private property rights is best achieved through Crown-First Nation negotiations. In the absence of a negotiated resolution, First Nations with Aboriginal title would need to bring a remedial application to court. In the near term, we will be watching for Crown-initiated negotiations and how any agreements treat private property interests.

[fjlip]

"You guys are sitting on treaty land that was taken from first nations for primarily the benefit of colonizers '

What was the perfect correct way to settle and develop N A?