Bit like your oil industry

[Blaithin]

If solar is going belly-up in Australia where you have virtually no ice or snow, solar has a snow ball’s in hell chance of making it here, but do you think any of these brain-dead bureaucrats are watching. No Way, they have the taxpayer on the hook for their quackery.

Solar is most efficient at colder temperatures. Like -5 to -15, somewhere in that range. The temperatures in Australia would make it less productive than the same sized set up here.

That said, everyone and their dog had solar of some sort where I was in Aus. Solar hot water tank and a few panels on the house. It's a way different attitude towards solar than here. Makes sense that a large solar farm would be somewhat redundant when the populated areas are producing most of their own. Why pipe it in from the country so to speak.

Mallee, how many parking lot covers have been converted into solar? I've seen a few mentioned, was wondering how popular that model really is.

[Landdownunder]

Solar is most efficient at colder temperatures. Like -5 to -15, somewhere in that range. The temperatures in Australia would make it less productive than the same sized set up here.

That said, everyone and their dog had solar of some sort where I was in Aus. Solar hot water tank and a few panels on the house. It's a way different attitude towards solar than here. Makes sense that a large solar farm would be somewhat redundant when the populated areas are producing most of their own. Why pipe it in from the country so to speak.

Mallee, how many parking lot covers have been converted into solar? I've seen a few mentioned, was wondering how popular that model really is.

Good question ive not seen a single one to be honest but im sure there about but not on a huge scale.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck2 I have explained this to you before. Generation and delivery and distribution are 2 separate charges. With Solar when you are credited for excess generation you are only payed the generation portion. It doesn’t matter what the total cost is as that isn’t what you are payed for. You also neglected to mention that in 2019 SaskPower changed what homeowners are payed for the power they generate, that rate is 7.5 cents per kilowatt until March 31, 2026. I am guessing your rate has been grandfathered in but in todays world a newly installed solar system in Saskatchewan will not receive anywhere’s near 14 cents nevermind your B.S. projection of 20 cents. You will receive 7.5 cents, similar to Alberta.

You are wrong Hamloc about Sask Powers net metering program. Get the facts straight!

I have the old contract which has a better value for excess credits. But with the current contract you get 7.5 cents for excess credits. Which is still okay.

But the most important point is if your production is matched to your usage, you will have no excess credits anyway. So the 7.5 cents is only a price that matters when valuing excess production credits.

But you don't pay Sask power for your own solar generation period! The meter turns backwards because of your own generation. But you do pay the basic delivery charge. Which is like $50 per month.

So the if the solar displaces all your usage over 30 years, I conservatively estimated the value at 20 cents per kwh to account for inflation. Which is probably low when 30 years from 2018 ends in 2048!

"SaskPower offers a Net Metering program where customers receive a credit for excess solar power sent to the grid. The current rate is 7.5 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh), which is in effect until March 31, 2026. These credits can only be used to offset your energy charge on your bill; they cannot be redeemed as cash and will not cover the basic monthly charge or taxes."

[chuckChuck]

Solar is most efficient at colder temperatures. Like -5 to -15, somewhere in that range. The temperatures in Australia would make it less productive than the same sized set up here.

That said, everyone and their dog had solar of some sort where I was in Aus. Solar hot water tank and a few panels on the house. It's a way different attitude towards solar than here. Makes sense that a large solar farm would be somewhat redundant when the populated areas are producing most of their own. Why pipe it in from the country so to speak.

Mallee, how many parking lot covers have been converted into solar? I've seen a few mentioned, was wondering how popular that model really is.

Blaithin you are correct about solar being more efficient in the cold.

Southern Alberta which doesn't have a lot of snow and is sunnier that many other parts of Canada will produce a bit more in winter and is a good place for solar pv.

Our highest production sunny days are often in March with snow on the ground and the sun shining with colder temperatures.

[chuckChuck]

Hamloc, have you figured out how net metering works in Saskatchewan yet?

Is Alberta's program that different?

And what is your estimate of the price of electricity in 2048? And the average price over 30 years from 2018 - 2048? 20 cents per kwh is probably on the low side. Especially if Alberta and Saskatchewan start building nuclear plants which are the highest cost option.

They should go for the lowest hanging lowest cost fruit first, which is lots of renewables backed up by natural gas and hydro.

[furrowtickler]

Found this interesting

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yet another coincidence where the cheapest electricity generation always results in the most expensive energy.

How gullible does one have to be to keep believing in this fairy tale against all evidence?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

First off Chuck2, you have just blown a big hole in what you constantly preach which is how solar is the cheapest form of electricity. Now your pricing electricity at 20 cents a kilowatt!!!

Is chuck back to bragging that adding more of the cheapest source of generation in the future will drive the cost of electricity up?
And that the entire ponzi scheme of renewable energy is based on future projections of much higher retail prices caused by more renewable energy, and the only solution is more "cheapest" renewable energy.

[blackpowder]

"green steel" without a premium to China's coal steel, losing money....
Tell me you've missed a gear on an icy hill without saying it.
We are gonna have to stop, chain up, and top out in low. Except, no one knows we're spinning out and rolling backwards lol. My stupid filter is now full for a while again....
Life is definitely stranger than fiction lol.

Best anti theft device?
A twin stick lol.

[shtferbrains]

Kind of seems like we are running in that race.
Race to the bottom with very few left playing that loser's game.

Just keep doubling down with the banks money.
Can't end well.
Not what people voted for?