Bit like your oil industry

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If he invested $40k to save $100/ month. He bought his house cashing checks not writing them.

I suspect that observation accurately describes a poster on here who brags about his solar panels.

[blackpowder]

To be fair, we all sometimes spend money to prove a point.

[Landdownunder]

I suspect that observation accurately describes a poster on here who brags about his solar panels.

I dont think I brag but my solar break even a at best nothing more nothing less no chest beating apologies if I came across that way like I said above really a non issue discussion here in australia have a top weekend.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I am of course referring to the hypocrite whom we both have on ignore.

[Landdownunder]

Woops i didnt give a second thought. Dont miss him one iota not that ive engaged with him for a long long while just got sick of 70% of rural issues being his. Quality over quantity hardly seen on FB much either but his missus has been quite crook

[chuckChuck]

Here is some overly simplified solar math for the doubters.

35,000 kwh per year at an average price of lets say conservatively 20 cents per Kwh
(currently 14 cents) to reflect the higher cost at the end the 30 year period and this adds up a total of $210,000.

Take off the original $60,000 tax deductible investment and you will have earned an estimated $150,000 in electricity costs.

For comparison put the $60,000 into a modest 1/2 ton and tell us how much money you made off that 1/2 ton in 30 years? Lets assume that the total annual operating cost of the 1/2 ton is far higher than the solar system. Fuel, oil changes depreciation and repairs.

Small scale Solar is not a big money maker in any case. But it is still well worth the investment.

Now take it to the utility sized scale and the cost of solar electricity drops to 3-4 cents per kwh according to contracts in southern Alberta.

If farmers are getting $700 -1200 dollars per acre for leasing land to solar systems there should be a line up because that is far more net revenue than from farming. Especially on grass lands in the palliser triangle in the southern prairies.

Add in grazing animals and total revenues only increase.

[Hamloc]

Here is some overly simplified solar math for the doubters.

35,000 kwh per year at an average price of lets say conservatively 20 cents per Kwh
(currently 14 cents) to reflect the higher cost at the end the 30 year period and this adds up a total of $210,000.

Take off the original $60,000 tax deductible investment and you will have earned an estimated $150,000 in electricity costs.

For comparison put the $60,000 into a modest 1/2 ton and tell us how much money you made off that 1/2 ton in 30 years? Lets assume that the total annual operating cost of the 1/2 ton is far higher than the solar system. Fuel, oil changes depreciation and repairs.

Small scale Solar is not a big money maker in any case. But it is still well worth the investment.

Now take it to the utility sized scale and the cost of solar electricity drops to 3-4 cents per kwh according to contracts in southern Alberta.

If farmers are getting $700 -1200 dollars per acre for leasing land to solar systems there should be a line up because that is far more net revenue than from farming. Especially on grass lands in the palliser triangle in the southern prairies.

Add in grazing animals and total revenues only increase.

First off Chuck2, you have just blown a big hole in what you constantly preach which is how solar is the cheapest form of electricity. Now your pricing electricity at 20 cents a kilowatt!!! I pay 6.9 cents for the generation portion of my bill. If you sign a new contract today it is 8.9 cents a kilowatt. This is what you are payed if you have solar panels. According to you this should go down as more renewables are added to the grid. Plus you are not taking into account that production from your panels does slightly reduce over time. Regardless best case scenario in Alberta results in under half the revenue you projected.

[chuckChuck]

Hamloc 20 cents is an estimated average price of paying for Sask Power's electricity over 30 years.

I am not paying Sask power for producing my own solar electricity!

And its not the value of my much lower solar electricity price!

It's used to calculate what the cost over 30 years would be for paying Sask Powers 35000 kwh per year.

And you only talk about generation costs? Huh? You left out all the other significant charges on your bill.

What is the total cost delivered per kwh into your yard Hamloc?

Farmers in Saskatchewan currently pay about 14 cents per Kwh delivered all in. Under a provincially controlled regulated rate system.

[fjlip]

"Especially on grass lands in the palliser triangle in the southern prairies."

And its FREE to transmit to where demand is! Ridiculous

[Hamloc]

Hamloc 20 cents is an estimated average price of paying for Sask Power's electricity over 30 years.

I am not paying Sask power for producing my own solar electricity!

And its not the value of my much lower solar electricity price!

It's used to calculate what the cost over 30 years would be for paying Sask Powers 35000 kwh per year.

And you only talk about generation costs? Huh? You left out all the other significant charges on your bill.

What is the total cost delivered per kwh into your yard Hamloc?

Farmers in Saskatchewan currently pay about 14 cents per Kwh delivered all in. Under a provincially controlled regulated rate system.

Chuck2 I have explained this to you before. Generation and delivery and distribution are 2 separate charges. With Solar when you are credited for excess generation you are only payed the generation portion. It doesn’t matter what the total cost is as that isn’t what you are payed for. You also neglected to mention that in 2019 SaskPower changed what homeowners are payed for the power they generate, that rate is 7.5 cents per kilowatt until March 31, 2026. I am guessing your rate has been grandfathered in but in todays world a newly installed solar system in Saskatchewan will not receive anywhere’s near 14 cents nevermind your B.S. projection of 20 cents. You will receive 7.5 cents, similar to Alberta.