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    #21
    From AI;

    Can't give days but use capacity factor or percentage of time producing power.
    Much better than solar at 20% but certainly not dispatchable .


    "Alberta's wind farms experience fluctuations in power generation due to variable wind speeds and directions. According to the Alberta Electric System Operator, capacity factors have ranged from 28% to 34.5% in recent years."
    Last edited by shtferbrains; Jun 17, 2025, 08:15.

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      #22
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Wow Hamloc, your drive by analysis from a single day tells the whole economic story of wind energy? That's such a convincing argument. LOL

      What about the other 364 days in the year? Did you forget about them?

      Give the eff up because you and your anti renewable energy buddies are wasting your time!

      Wind average capacity factor 35%, sooo 65% of the time not producing electricity. Yup I am the effing idiot.

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        #23
        You cherry picker Hamloc.
        Wind has never made 35% in recent yrs.

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          #24
          Hmmm , ain’t that somethin eh ? The real side of the story ….

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            #25
            You guys should stick to farming and leave energy analysis to the utilities who are installing multiple types of generation whether you like it or not.

            Even at 30-40% efficiency Sask Power says wind has the lowest lifetime cost. LCOE

            And I repeat, its not one or the other in the plan to build more capacity.

            You need to get over your political aversion to renewables because we already have lots of them with more on the way.

            Texas and North Dakota! Some of the biggest renewable energy producers in the US. Are they wrong?



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              #26
              Will only increase after EV mandate, the Billions it would cost for infrastructure.

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                #27
                Chuck, you must be really excited about changes Trump is trying to bring to the renewable energy markets. When he levels the playing field and removes the subsidies and mandates, and renewable energy will finally get the chance to stand on its own two feet and prove that it is cheap and reliable and competitive as you keep telling us.

                Considering but it is already the cheapest source as you keep telling us, why is the industry and it's proponents fighting so hard against removing the crutch which its detractors used to argue against cheap renewable energy?

                This will end the argument once and for all.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

                  You need to get over your political aversion to renewables because we already have lots of them with more on the way.

                  Texas and North Dakota! Some of the biggest renewable energy producers in the US. Are they wrong?
                  Isn't the biggest user or renewables California?
                  They have about 50% of their generation capacity as non-GHG?
                  Commonly viewed as the most favorable place in the world for solar and wind.
                  Most is installed on the desert very close to large urban areas.

                  They pay higher rates for peak usage time from 4pm to 9pm.


                  Last edited by shtferbrains; Jun 18, 2025, 10:54.

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                    #29
                    Customer Charge 9.60 Usage (1,471 kWh @ $0.1169/kWh) 171.96
                    Energy Cost Adjustment (1,471 KWh @ $0.0800 /kWh) 117.68
                    State Mandated Charges: Public Benefits Charge ($299.24 @ $0.0285) 8.53
                    California Energy Surcharge (1,471 kWh @ $0.00030/kWh) 0.44
                    ___________
                    Total Current Charges Due by 01/21/2025 308.21


                    From a rental prop in CA in Dec 24.

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                      #30
                      What about Texas and North Dakota with lots of renewables?

                      Why do you keep running away from discussing their very large wind and solar capacity with relatively low electricity prices.

                      Both have large amounts of natural gas, some coal but have chosen to install lots of wind and some solar.







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