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Trudeau says he is quite a man because he won’t abandon,”the fight”.

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  • blackpowder
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 9301

    #31
    Well said. I don't understand why people can't see that.
    Chuck doesn't count and I wouldn't worry about his comments. They only serve to make himself feel better.

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12896

      #32
      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

      The athabasca glacier as well as many other glaciers have been receding since the ice age ended and the climate started to warm 10000+ years ago. No denying the climate has been warming and do not want to argue either way as there is no point. Far as I’m concerned excessive pollution ground, water, and air is an existential threat as is religion, totalitarianism, foreign meddling, and lunatics which all go hand in hand. Is it okay to label carbon the enemy this generation but yet compromise our security transferring our industrial base and pollution to bad actors like China, or in europes case shut down domestic energy industries in exchange for weaponized oil and gas from an existential threat Russia? I ask you cc what is the best course to balance reducing pollution and keeping the bad actors from collapsing western democracies? None of your worries mean shit all if there’s nothing left to save.
      Glad to see you admit there is climate is warming Wilton. Progress because some of your buddies think its getting cooler and the ice is growing around the world.

      We both know there are natural cause to warming, but you and the other human caused climate change deniers and skeptics don't think green house gases are also a cause.

      Human caused climate change is a scientific fact.

      If you took climate science seriously and understand the risks you would know that the cost of doing nothing will cost far more and destabilize humanity even further than the usual crackpots and dictators who threaten nuclear war like Putin.

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      • WiltonRanch
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 4517

        #33
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

        Glad to see you admit there is climate is warming Wilton. Progress because some of your buddies think its getting cooler and the ice is growing around the world.

        We both know there are natural cause to warming, but you and the other human caused climate change deniers and skeptics don't think green house gases are also a cause.

        Human caused climate change is a scientific fact.

        If you took climate science seriously and understand the risks you would know that the cost of doing nothing will cost far more and destabilize humanity even further than the usual crackpots and dictators who threaten nuclear war like Putin.
        Screw you too. Did I ever say I was a denier of any of it or a flat earther. Go and keep your head in the sand about current events but you need a stable world to start with before you can do any of the transitions you espouse.

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        • littledoggie
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 839

          #34
          A curious mind has questions. Why didn't the enforcers use a carrot instead of a stick? They might have had a different result. They also may have looked at things differently if they had put their temperature recording devices outside of a heat sync (aka city)

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 12896

            #35
            Then little, it must be all the asphalt that is causing the ocean temperatures and arctic temperatures to rise! Check with A5 on that because he has the evidence, but he won't show it! LOL

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12896

              #36
              Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

              Screw you too. Did I ever say I was a denier of any of it or a flat earther. Go and keep your head in the sand about current events but you need a stable world to start with before you can do any of the transitions you espouse.
              Then why don't you speak up like Pierre Poilivere and say human caused climate change is real?

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              • fjlip
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2002
                • 9852

                #37
                Of course climate has changed from a glacier covering your location, dense cities might be warmer, human caused. Tax will not COOL them off.

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12896

                  #38
                  Reducing GHG emissions will reduce the warming. Thats the whole point. But are you going to say more CO2 and warming will be good for us like A5?

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                  • shtferbrains
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 5237

                    #39
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Reducing GHG emissions will reduce the warming. Thats the whole point. But are you going to say more CO2 and warming will be good for us like A5?
                    When can we expect to see significant movement in that direction?

                    Better be sooner than later as most taxpayers are about done with it.

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