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[Hamloc]

On the CBC today:”Family ditches electric truck on drive fro east Winnipeg to Chicago after charging troubles.”

Highlights. Person bought the truck for $115000 in January. Spent an additional $16000 installing chargers at his home and business and upgrading his electrical panel. Truck has a rated range of 515 km. Left on his trip. First charge at Fargo North Dakota. 350 kms, charged from 10% to 90% for $56. The trouble began in Albertville, Minn., the only fast charger brought up a faulty connection message on his truck. Headed to another charger in Elk River, Minn., it wouldn’t work either. With 15 kilometres left on his battery and no fast charger in range he got it towed to a Ford dealership and rented a Toyota 4Runner to finish his trip. Now he just uses his truck to commute 100 kms round trip daily to work. A very expensive vehicle for this purpose lol. Obviously real life experience showed the rated range is exaggerated.

[cropgrower]

anybody on Facebook look him up , i dont know how to post link ,in UK he has tested lots of diferent make EV , and found them all to be a huge disapointment , they all do about half the miles on a charge that they claim they can do , he is also very entertaining !

[chuckChuck]

Our hybrid works really well and EV range would be more than enough for most city commutes and electric cost per 100 km is about half the cost of gas.

Of course stories about the F150 lightning get lots of attention but you hardly hear about all the drivers who don't have problems with EV range and charging.

EVs have come a long way in a short few years and will no doubt improve year after year. Especially with the new solid state battery technology that toyota and panasonic have developed.

[cropgrower]

https://fb.watch/mkHxGY3BFe/

[cropgrower]

disaster in the rain ! what about -30 🤔

[fjlip]

Our hybrid works really well and EV range would be more than enough for most city commutes and electric cost per 100 km is about half the cost of gas.

Of course stories about the F150 lightning get lots of attention but you hardly hear about all the drivers who don't have problems with EV range and charging.

EVs have come a long way in a short few years and will no doubt improve year after year. Especially with the new solid state battery technology that toyota and panasonic have developed.

So Lieberal/Turdo $14 billion battery boondoggle is for old shit tech? Obsolete before any production?

Rain /cold bad for range , just like calm wind and cloudy to F up your charging day.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Our hybrid works really well and EV range would be more than enough for most city commutes and electric cost per 100 km is about half the cost of gas.
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Out of curiosity, have you ever looked at the top of the page where The forum name is listed. On the top of my page, it says rural issues and the website is called Agriville, Agri as in agriculture.
What I can deduce from those simple facts is that your primary audience is composed of people in the agricultural industry who live in rural areas. Who have come here to read about issues that affect people in the agricultural industry who live in rural areas.
Lecturing such rural people about the utility of electric vehicles in the city, seems like a very inefficient way to reach your target audience. May I suggest an alternate forum where you might reach more people who live in a City and art primary agricultural producers. Your time will be much better spent lecturing them than lecturing a bunch of rural farmers.
Such as the following forum:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/347112051968789/

As for costing half as much to charge an electric vehicle versus a gasoline vehicle, I just looked up all of the taxes on a liter of gas in vancouver, and it works out to 60 cents. Correction, the article I found was 4 years old. So the CO2 tax is much much higher now than it was then. So the total taxes per litre will be much higher than $.60 now.
That works out to almost half the cost of the gasoline. Come to think of it, there is no tax on the electricity used to charge the electric vehicle. So if the double standard was removed, and the electric vehicle owners paid as much tax as everyone else, it would cost at least as much to recharge the electric vehicle.

[fjlip]

That would be TOTALLY fair, wake up Gov...but they are complicit in the scam! Savings are FAKE!

[Taiga]

They should have pushed the hybrids more, rather than the full on EVs. I booked a rental for a week while in the US last winter. Ended up being given a Prius Hybrid. We drove for a week and it took $5 to fill the tank before we dropped it back off at Avis, that’s it for a weeks worth of driving. I was impressed. I realize it’s a small car but still a 4 door.

[WiltonRanch]

They should have pushed the hybrids more, rather than the full on EVs. I booked a rental for a week while in the US last winter. Ended up being given a Prius Hybrid. We drove for a week and it took $5 to fill the tank before we dropped it back off at Avis, that’s it for a weeks worth of driving. I was impressed. I realize it’s a small car but still a 4 door.

We caught some Mariners games couple weeks ago. Every Uber is a hybrid. Lots of hybrids in general.

[Guest]

On the CBC today:”Family ditches electric truck on drive fro east Winnipeg to Chicago after charging troubles.”

Highlights. Person bought the truck for $115000 in January. Spent an additional $16000 installing chargers at his home and business and upgrading his electrical panel. Truck has a rated range of 515 km. Left on his trip. First charge at Fargo North Dakota. 350 kms, charged from 10% to 90% for $56. The trouble began in Albertville, Minn., the only fast charger brought up a faulty connection message on his truck. Headed to another charger in Elk River, Minn., it wouldn’t work either. With 15 kilometres left on his battery and no fast charger in range he got it towed to a Ford dealership and rented a Toyota 4Runner to finish his trip. Now he just uses his truck to commute 100 kms round trip daily to work. A very expensive vehicle for this purpose lol. Obviously real life experience showed the rated range is exaggerated.

My baby duramax would have took 31liters of diesel ? How I; *** is an EV cheaper to drive at $56 to charge and 35% higher purchase price ???
Chuck ? , anyone ?
And this is on the “trusted CBC?”

[chuckChuck]

Lots of very expensive high end ICE trucks on the road that cost a fortune to own and operate. But cost and fuel efficiency seems not to be much of a concern if you look at truck consumer behaviour.

Toyota is going to offer a range of low emission vehicles options including full EVs and hybrids so that you can choose the best fit for your needs and location.

With the new solid state panasonic battery technology coming in 2027 range will increase and charging time will decrease.

[shtferbrains]

[furrowtickler]

Wrong
Consumers know that current EV batteries are useless in Canadian winters and have only 1/2 the range . So until this new “proposed” battery technology is readily available and proven to work in our climate things won’t change

[furrowtickler]

Why don’t you own a full EV chuck ???? Answer that and you have your answer
Ya , lots of hybrids out there , blah blah
My wife will probably get a hybrid for her next vehicle, they kinda make sense
I am currently looking at an F150 hybrid, actually later today .