Welcome to Canada, the land of free roads, cheap gas – and the world’s least fuel-eff

[WiltonRanch]

Maybe if the big three built cars that were bulletproof and lasted 20 years like they used to , then more people would have bought them I guess. Trucks are the new car now , and have been for years. Found out that Dodge won't build a regular cab long box truck anymore , unless it's a 3/4 ton or one ton. Used to be that regular cab half ton long box trucks were all that was on the lot.

Dodge er’ Ram won’t build those base models cause demand isn’t there nor margin. Several years ago I snagged a 2 year old new half ton off the dealers lot for 30 grand. Crew cab 4x4 mind you but it wouldn’t sell because it had the v6. I’m driving an 8 year old truck with under 135000 km. Fuel economy is great and it’s been reliable for a light duty half ton. I don’t need fancy and many others don’t but manufacturers build them cause people buy them and or they think they need to buy the higher end so trade in value is there. Eventually at the 10 year mark it doesn’t matter as everything is worth the same no matter the trim package.

[newguy]

Free roads …… lol
Taxed to death but everything in Canada is free 🙄👎…. Wow some people are dense in economics

no more dense in economics than Polly.Buy crypto and fire the head of the Bank of Canada.And when he explains what caused inflation you know he has not figured our checkers when a chess game is going on.

[goalieguy847]

Did the study take into account the fact that half our year is spent in sub zero temps ( which can reduce EV mileage by what... 45% and any ICE by 25?). It would be like saying australia spends less on heating oil than the whole of PEI, new brunswick and nova scotia. Well. No shiza sir sherlock!
Full disclosure. Skimmed the article. Hope they took temperatures into effect. Europe doesnt count because their population is so much closer together and many countries have regulations on the maximum age a vehicle ( thus having higher fuel mileages) can be..so. apples to apples here chucky! 2nd full disclosure. I drive a yukon xl thats actually not all that horrid on fuel. Do i need the space? I feel i do. Could we go smaller? Yep. But i can afford a 2018 with 200 k on it and all the additional costs.... thats why i wont complain avout the carbon tax.
Would like to buy a newer one that has the little duramax diesel ( its amazing on fuel) but theyre just too much money. 115 k for a new yukon? Why? Who? Why? In what world? Why?

Hey chuck. Serious question. I grow oats. When you eat a bowl of porridge do you honestly care how many carbon units it took to get there when youre hungry? NO but you do care what it cost to get into that bowl.

This is the diffculty with our current situation. We need to lower food costs and living costs but nobody has any idea how to properly do it. Libs want rich to pay more while those who pay nothing cost everyone more.
Cons want everyone for their own but when too many people need help nobody wants to help them.
So what do you do?

Not sure. But letting someone charge a tax on carbon while imposing a fine of what, 50 million on a company that gets caught FIXING THE PRICE OF THE LOWEST tier of food we have ( bread/ bread products) seems... uhh...

Dumb?

[furrowtickler]

no more dense in economics than Polly.Buy crypto and fire the head of the Bank of Canada.And when he explains what caused inflation you know he has not figured our checkers when a chess game is going on.

Are you really that simple minded ??

[chuckChuck]

You gotta wonder about the many Conservative consumers complaining about the cost of fuel and carbon taxes while they drive the the most expensive and least efficient vehicles when a smaller more efficient vehicle will cover their needs.

Instead of averaging 6 L per 100 km, they drive something that averages 16 L if they are lucky. Maybe they can't do math and don't know what the extra 10 L /100km is costing them? Its a whole lot more than the carbon tax, most of which they get back in climate rebates.

If you need a truck for work by all means, but why are many suburban and city residents driving big trucks?

Its marketing folks. The big three makes lots of profit off of sales of luxury lifestyle trucks. And consumers have been sucked in to all the hype.

[furrowtickler]

You gotta wonder about the many Conservative consumers complaining about the cost of fuel and carbon taxes while they drive the the most expensive and least efficient vehicles when a smaller more efficient vehicle will cover their needs.

Instead of averaging 6 L per 100 km, they drive something that averages 16 L if they are lucky. Maybe they can't do math and don't know what the extra 10 L /100km is costing them? Its a whole lot more than the carbon tax, most of which they get back in climate rebates.

If you need a truck for work by all means, but why are many suburban and city residents driving big trucks?

Its marketing folks. The big three makes lots of profit off of sales of luxury lifestyle trucks. And consumers have been sucked in to all the hype.

You should start an Urban Issues page and start berating all them suburban and city folks .

[furrowtickler]

It’s a fact a lot of newer trucks and even larger SUV’s are getting 7 -8 L /100 km , you do realize that right ?
Chev and GM’s new 3L Turbo diesel is incredibly efficient and in 1/2 tons , mid size and large SUV’s . A few of us have them here and that’s a fact
Dodge has their new inline 6 Hurricane engine in their SUV’s , they are in that range as well . Soon to be in all their trucks in 2024 . Extremely fuel efficient for larger vehicles.

[chuckChuck]

For sure there have been improvements but you need to consider the entire fleet averages because fuel consumption is not dropping if people keep choosing more larger vehicles over smaller vehicles.

[cropgrower]

You gotta wonder about the many Conservative consumers complaining about the cost of fuel and carbon taxes while they drive the the most expensive and least efficient vehicles when a smaller more efficient vehicle will cover their needs.

Instead of averaging 6 L per 100 km, they drive something that averages 16 L if they are lucky. Maybe they can't do math and don't know what the extra 10 L /100km is costing them? Its a whole lot more than the carbon tax, most of which they get back in climate rebates.

If you need a truck for work by all means, but why are many suburban and city residents driving big trucks?

Its marketing folks. The big three makes lots of profit off of sales of luxury lifestyle trucks. And consumers have been sucked in to all the hype.

more garbage , what good is a little 2wd car that may not even have 8 inches ground clearence going trough snowdrifts to go to work early in the morning on uncleared gravel roads ?

[furrowtickler]

For sure there have been improvements but you need to consider the entire fleet averages because fuel consumption is not dropping if people keep choosing more larger vehicles over smaller vehicles.

I just showed larger vehicles are getting way better fuel consumption , it’s very evident
I get your point but a vast majority of what you consider “larger” vehicles are all going to these very efficient engines now .