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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    You gotta laugh at conservatives who suddenly go all environmental on renewable energy but say nothing about the much larger impact of fossil energy on the environment!

    How many trees have been cut and pushed in Alberta and BC for oil and gas? Did you count them? Because the number will make Scotlands number look really small.

    Why do you say nothing when its oil and gas? Is it because you are hypocrites? I think we know the answer. LOL
    we are just showing how clueless you are , you are the one that said the report on trees being lost was not true , i guess what happens when you get brainwashed

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      Chuck, what is the goal for the slogan "Net zero by 2050"???

      Must be net zero wealth for all Canadians?

      At the rate your climate changers are blowing our money with zero results that will be achieved well before 2050.

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            GREAT news, sanity is returning!

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              But did they pay for themselves? I’ll bet they paid for politicians!

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                Petro Danny Smith is all worried about reclamation for solar pv and wind and the land it uses but trys hard to get taxpayers to pay for the oil industry to clean up the legacy of billions in abandoned oil wells and facilities? Huh?

                Solar PV and wind sites can be used indefinitely and equipment can be replaced upgraded again and again.

                And best of all, the wind and solar resource will never run out and the cost of fuel is zero!

                Unlike oil sites, there is no soil contamination. No pipelines to seal off. No well head and surface casing to seal off. The cost of cleaning up oil a single oil site can be in the millions. That's why the oil industry doesn't want to do it! It cuts into profits.

                And the oil industry has used up lots of good agricultural land with hardly a concern from the likes of Petro Danny or previous oil obsessed Alberta premiers.

                But Danny wants to put a hold on the renewables industry but then wants to do nothing about the loss of good agricultural land and mess the oil industry leaves behind?

                Blatant hypocrisy in the land of milk and money! Say it ain't so! LOL

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                  Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
                  But did they pay for themselves? I’ll bet they paid for politicians!
                  Absolutely NONE of this green shit pays! All make work, Gov cash/borrowing, next gens into DEBT! All the numbers are made up, NONE can be proven accurate.

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                    Alberta has put $33 billion dollars of renewable investment on hold and nobody is making any money from the $33 billion? LOL

                    Renewables pause in Alberta affecting 118 projects worth $33 billion, think tank says

                    CP, The Canadian Press
                    Bob Weber
                    Published Aug 24, 2023 • 3 minute read

                    EDMONTON — After two decades in the oilpatch, Shawn Hubbard was tired of layoffs and uncertainty about the future.

                    “I was pretty much done with that after 20 years,” he said. “Getting the rug pulled out from under you gets tiresome.”

                    Hubbard, 50, took a short, free course on installing solar panels in 2021 and was working in the field by the next summer.

                    “I liked it a lot more,” he said. “The hours were similar but the pay was better.

                    “There’s plenty of work in renewables.”

                    Plus, as oil and gas continues to shed jobs, renewables seemed like tomorrow.

                    “Renewables seemed like a natural progression for energy generation,” he said. “It always felt like the future for me.”

                    Hubbard now works for the City of Medicine Hat to keep close to his family. But he fears the United Conservative government’s six-month pause on renewable energy approvals, announced earlier this month, will stifle an industry that presents a real alternative for workers like him.

                    “I was angry,” he said. “That’s a lot of work, a lot of jobs, that are going to be put in limbo.

                    “What are they doing?”

                    Hubbard’s fears were underscored in a report released Thursday by the Pembina Institute, a clean-energy think tank, about the scale of solar, wind and geothermal projects affected by the renewables moratorium.

                    The report said the pause affects 118 projects worth $33 billion. It said those projects would create enough jobs to keep 24,000 people working for a year and represent what could be $263 million in local taxes and leases for landowners in 27 municipalities.

                    Nathan Neudorf
                    “There are 105 projects inaccurately listed by interest groups that are months, maybe years, away from even getting before the (commission),” said Affordability and Utilities Minister Nate Neudorf. David Bloom/Postmedia

                    Those figures come from the Alberta Electrical System Operator and Natural Resources Canada, said report author Jason Wang. They represent projects in various stages of development, from formal proposals to initial construction.

                    “Probably not all these projects will be built,” Wang said.

                    “But all these projects have investors talking about (building). We do see tremendous interest in Alberta.”

                    Several companies have already said they’re considering taking their money elsewhere.

                    The commission has said it would keep accepting applications and move them through the regulatory process, which Wang called the “least bad” approach. But it won’t issue any approvals until after it completes an inquiry into issues of land use and reclamation for renewables.

                    In an emailed statement, Minister of Affordability and Utilities Nathan Neudorf said no projects are being cancelled and only 13 projects before the Alberta Utilities Commission are directly affected by the pause.

                    “There are 105 projects inaccurately listed by interest groups that are months, maybe years, away from even getting before the (commission),” Neudorf wrote. “The next construction season will be available for approved projects.”

                    But Wang said the vast majority of projects in the queue had planned to hook up to the grid by 2025, meaning the delay and uncertainty stemming from the inquiry will directly affect them.

                    New Democrat Opposition energy critic Nagwan Al-Guneid, who worked for years in both fossil fuels and renewables, said there are already reclamation provisions in existing legislation. Consultations on land use were already ongoing, she said.

                    “You can still be open for business while going ahead with these consultations,” she said. “A moratorium is not a solution.”

                    Al-Guneid pointed out the International Energy Agency says investment in renewable energy this year is projected to reach $2.3 trillion worldwide, with solar investment outpacing fossil fuels for the first time.

                    Having to wait until February for a report that might contain unknown new costs and regulations is not attracting any of that money to Alberta, she said.

                    “The reality is that there is a global transformation,” Al-Guneid said. “A responsible government needs to plan for all scenarios.”

                    Meanwhile, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith was in Banff, Alta., on Thursday speaking to the Canadian Energy Executive Association.

                    She said Alberta producers are reducing the amount of greenhouse gases they emit during production, although she didn’t mention that production only represents about 20 per cent of the carbon released by a barrel of oil.

                    “We don’t need a just transition in Alberta because we don’t intend to transition away from oil and gas,” Smith said.

                    That’s exactly what Shawn Hubbard, the renewables worker, is afraid of.

                    “In the world, everybody’s moving forward.

                    “(Smith) is not taking our province into the future. Or even into the present.”

                    This report by The Canadian Press was first published Aug. 24, 2023.
                    Last edited by chuckChuck; Aug 31, 2023, 07:23.

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                      The global coalition of scientists say that politics and a journalistic frenzy has propelled a doomsday climate change hysteria. The signatories also ask other scientists to "address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming."


                      Of the 1,609 scientists who have signed the declaration, two signatories are Nobel Prize laureates. The most recent to sign is Nobel Prize winner Dr. John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics. In an announcement from CLINTEL, Clauser is quoted as saying "Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists."

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                        Clauser is a climate change denier. Not a climate scientist at all. His head is up his arse with "interferometry and quantum theory" What ever that is?

                        Name one credible scientific organization that says human caused climate change is not happening?

                        You will never come up with an answer.

                        John F. Clauser
                        Credentials

                        Ph.D., physics, Columbia University (1966–1969).1
                        M.A., physics, Columbia University (1964–1966).2
                        B.S., physics, California Institute of Technology (1960–1964).3

                        Background

                        John Francis Clauser is an experimental physicist and member of the board of directors4 of the CO2 Coalition, a group that claims that both CO2 emissions and associated global warming would be “of great benefit to life on earth.”5

                        Clauser has declared “there is no real climate crisis.”6

                        He was one of three physicists to share the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2022 “for experiments with entangled photons, establishing the violation of Bell inequalities and pioneering quantum information science.” 7

                        According to his biography at the American Institute of Physics, “John Clauser is an experimental physicist who researches interferometry and quantum theory. He won the Wolf Foundation Prize in Physics in 2010. His institutional affiliations include Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and University of California at Berkeley.”8

                        Clauser is also an “avid sailboat racer,” and sails in the Berkeley Yacht Club and Richmond Yacht Club.9

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                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          Clauser is a climate change denier. Not a climate scientist at all. His head is up his arse with "interferometry and quantum theory" What ever that is?

                          Name one credible scientific organization that says human caused climate change is not happening?

                          You will never come up with an answer.

                          John F. Clauser
                          Credentials

                          Ph.D., physics, Columbia University (1966–1969).1
                          M.A., physics, Columbia University (1964–1966).2
                          B.S., physics, California Institute of Technology (1960–1964).3

                          Background

                          John Francis Clauser is an experimental physicist and member of the board of directors4 of the CO2 Coalition, a group that claims that both CO2 emissions and associated global warming would be “of great benefit to life on earth.”5

                          Clauser has declared “there is no real climate crisis.”6

                          He was one of three physicists to share the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2022 “for experiments with entangled photons, establishing the violation of Bell inequalities and pioneering quantum information science.” 7

                          According to his biography at the American Institute of Physics, “John Clauser is an experimental physicist who researches interferometry and quantum theory. He won the Wolf Foundation Prize in Physics in 2010. His institutional affiliations include Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and University of California at Berkeley.”8

                          Clauser is also an “avid sailboat racer,” and sails in the Berkeley Yacht Club and Richmond Yacht Club.9
                          1609 Scientists declared the climate emergency a myth. I would call that a credible scientific organization.

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                            Way more credible than the "experts" that are PAID to spew the horseshit climate fearmongering to get $$$ and enslave future generations with DEBT!

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                              What a great cause to support. It is the definition of non falsifiable.
                              The only way to disprove it would be to find a credible scientific organization who doesn't support the cause. Then declare any scientific organization who doesn't support the cause as no longer credible.
                              Not only that, but any and every type of weather is proof of climate change.
                              This is a rock solid thesis, no one will ever be able to disprove it. Therefore it must be true.
                              Isn't science great?

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                                Climate change is physics.

                                "Importantly, the award of the Nobel prize highlights that climate modelling is physics. This renders the question ‘do you believe in global warming’ meaningless: whether the globe warms in response to greenhouse gas increases is determined by the physics of energy balance. It is not subject to belief systems."


                                Your over your head here Chuck.

                                The guy is a Nobel Prize winner.

                                Your just a muppet.

                                What comes out of your mouth is mostly of no value to anyone.

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