Soverignty Acts

[Hamloc]

Yup hammy you are sucker for all the western politicians who make their living off blaming those eastern bastards for all their problems!

A tried and true way to avoid responsibility for the fiscal mismanagement and giveaways to the oil industry in Alberta.

You gotta feel sorry for those "poor" Albertans with record windfall oil company profits.

Life in the richest province is really hard all because of those eastern bastards! LOL

So you have no problem with Quebec paying a lower carbon tax than you do in Saskatchewan?

[tweety]

So you have no problem with Quebec paying a lower carbon tax than you do in Saskatchewan?

Time for you to do some math to find out who gets the better deal. You know, "do your own research".

Hint: Look up the difference between Quebec and SK federally. Or as Jazz would say, confederally.

[blackpowder]

I haven't seen any paved roads to nowhere since the late 70s early 80s.
The lack of saving would've been anyone, its human. The royalties arguably could've been higher, but we are in the costliest production zone in the world and you can own shares yourself.
Those greedy companies have fed hundreds of thousands of families for 3 generations now. My grandmother didn't wear shoes in the summer. My father drilled in the 50s and FIL in the 70s in conditions that would make today's man's p***y hurt. I know many who bought diapers on $8/hr in the early 80s. I'm proud of our part of the world. You're a broken record.
How come the richest region in manufacturing, population, education, hydro, and political power for 150 years needs constant validation and support? Why isn't the tech industry booming? Why is the corruption in Quebec overlooked?
I never hear a hue and cry over any Orders In Council Ottawa uses constantly. Unless of course it's a pet issue of the socialists.
Our system at present fails certain regions and the provinces at this point have no choice but to exercise more autonomy.
What's good for an economy is good for the people. But only if it passes your twisted view? You are as one dimensional as anyone I've ever met.
I don't know anyone here who is crying that life is hard.
I don't hear you crying about Weston profits or the price of dairy goods. Union overreach all good?
Your juvenile mindset and tactics are tired. Look around for a new crusade. Your energies and talents are better spent elsewhere.
When you're successful eventually someone trys to take from you. Too bad you'll never know what that's like.
And if you had an open mind at all you would know the banana republic analogy has gained the most traction internationally during the current reign.

[tweety]

It holds no weight for me where you have lived or live. I enjoy our discussion.
Where I have lived my entire life, and in the entire region, the federal Liberals and NDP have never sent MPs to Ottawa. I can tell you what that results in after 3 generations.

Much like AB and UCP. Rural areas need not have an election.

So you could say other then for a brief time, you know your representation in Ottawa will be minor. But here's the thing, why didn't the Conservatives make a deal with the NDP? To achieve a small amount is better then achieving absolutely nothing.

Would you feel sold out to evil? Or in hindsight - realize it was a brilliant political move on PM's part.

In other news, AS act becomes Alberta Sovereignty Statute. They obviously never ran that thru the acronym checker. Gets more ridiculous every move. Addendum to remove some cabinet power is good - but the whole thing is still ridiculous. But by the comments, its got a lot of boys here excited into thinking they got real power now.

Good luck with trying to overturn any meaningful federal legislation provincially. But then the ASS was never about anything meaningful. That is why Ottawa isn't worried or care about it.

Edit: I honestly feel there is no good solution for Alberta to feel better within the bounds of the Federation of Canada and Alberta being a Province of Canada.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

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Edit: I honestly feel there is no good solution for Alberta to feel better within the bounds of the Federation of Canada and Alberta being a Province of Canada.

Amen.

[jazz]

Amen.

Totally makes sense. We will take our quadrillion in resources and head for the exits.

Let’s dispel this Quebec carbon tax stuff. Quebec takes equalization money from AB to buy carbon credits from California. End of story. Even their hydro dams we paid for couldn’t keep them out of the crosshairs so they had to go outside the country and join a scam in California which can’t be audited. AB equalization supporting true commies.

[blackpowder]

Edit: I honestly feel there is no good solution for Alberta to feel better within the bounds of the Federation of Canada and Alberta being a Province of Canada.

I would like to think you're wrong.
Is Quebec ever happy? I don't know.
A lawyer will tell you that if no one is satisfied the judgement likely fair.

Rex Murphy not wrong. If everyone in the East unhappy with Danielle Smith, she might be doing something right.
No one here complained when Ralph bought one way bus tickets.

[GALAXIE500]

Oh it will work for what is wanted - that is the problem.

2 big errors however.

1. Supreme Court already ruled separation is unconstitutional and breaks international law. There is no right for a Province to secede from Canada. And don't point to the Clarity Act like the uninformed do.

2. Canada is a Federation since 1867 when the 3 countries united, not a confederate association of sovereign states. You should have learned that in Junior High.

Do your homework.

Question:

Since when are we in a confederation when Quebec ******* and complains , and stomps their feet continuously to get preferential treatment ? The Govt has been kissing their asses for decades , and what does the rest of the country get?

If Quebec isn't a perfect example of a province that has succeeded from Canada , then i don't know what is!

[Landdownunder]

ventured here to rural issues for a look hmmm 4 pages this must be interesting.

what a interesting intelligent rational discussion by most participants well done tweety blackpowder ab5 and others

can of worms.

not the same but similar a great state in australia, west australia economic power house in many ways has sort of similar issues to west Canada carries burden of many royalty and gst payments to east of Aust.

[WiltonRanch]

Everyone mentions Quebec sucking up equalization but what about the maritimes? They’re a true black hole. Crashing demographics, stagnant economies, and crushing debt. Newfoundland with its vast oil reserves flat as piss on a plate because of boondoggles like Muskrat Falls which is tied up with Power Corp if I’m not mistaken. Long term no hope for them to be have provinces unless a bunch of young people come in and shake things up. Instead their young come west to work. This is the reality this country faces with everyone new wanting to live in southern Ontario when really they need to settle across the whole country in equal proportions but it won’t happen as that will erode the liberals power base.