vertical tillage , high speed discs , mud , ruts, etc ?

[Guest]

have not tried any of the new tillage systems yet , what are people's thoughts on which ones work the best? we have ruts all over a foot deep , heavy straw on high spots , some uncombined straw in low spots, and water all over . is there any system that will help all of these ? hoping some of the water will be gone by spring . watched a video on degelman pro till , looked interesting , but like I said , have no experience with any of them ? scic $100/ac too wet to seed looking pretty probable right now. probably had 8-10" of moisture out of snow and rain so far in oct , fields are sliding into creeks and rivers all over , haven't saw the sun in October, no one has ever saw anything like it here, ever ....

[dalek]

have not tried any of the new tillage systems yet , what are people's thoughts on which ones work the best? we have ruts all over a foot deep , heavy straw on high spots , some uncombined straw in low spots, and water all over . is there any system that will help all of these ? hoping some of the water will be gone by spring . watched a video on degelman pro till , looked interesting , but like I said , have no experience with any of them ? scic $100/ac too wet to seed looking pretty probable right now. probably had 8-10" of moisture out of snow and rain so far in oct , fields are sliding into creeks and rivers all over , haven't saw the sun in October, no one has ever saw anything like it here, ever ....

Sounds like you need a good old offset disk

[Partners]

The bigger farms here all had them a few yrs ago.now don't see them anymore.

[SASKFARMER]

My Kelley disc is a good all round machine! I'm still going but my days are counting down!

[Guest]

My Kelley disc is a good all round machine! I'm still going but my days are counting down!

Does it fill deep ruts ,what kind pf ptice are they ?

[macdon02]

Personally I'm looking at a tile plow, there's enough outlets beside me I think I can get value out of it. Just looking at draining sloughs not tiling entire quarter. Not sure 30k US to do a quarter is feasible. But I'd rather spend it on an asset that doesn't depreciate and the quarter is fixed for my lifetime. I hate paint. Still the cost of the plow and installing. ..and other obstacles, regulations.

[seabass]

You can't be as wet as u always bitch if u are still able to work in your fields.

[furrowtickler]

If you can get your hands on a case turbo till 330 or 335 it will work very well in mud and ruts . Also leaves a very good field finish that you can seed into .
If you have rocks , the Kelly harrow will be better .

[farmaholic]

I heard the "rolling baskets" of the vertical tillage tools can fill with mud in wet conditions....Degelman Protill has the corrugated rubber drum packer option. Which option do you have bucket?

[Oliver88]

The bigger farms here all had them a few yrs ago.now don't see them anymore.

Should be a lot of cheap units if it ever gets dry again.
These 100k + units aren't my cup of tea......

[furrowtickler]

Lemkin's also work well in mud to fill ruts and leave a good field finish
Local Case dealer has a few new and used on the lot.
Like em or not , some of these machines are worth there metal in situations like this fall .
If you can deal with tough soil or straw conditions this fall you will save some valuable seeding time next spring .
A lot of guys would have liked to gain 4-5 days this past spring . Being able to seed 4 days earlier can gain 8 days at harvest time - might have been the difference between getting done harvest earlier and not have those few days left turn into a month of misery now .

[fjlip]

Any tillage at all will COMPACT and make water infiltration slower....used disks and diskers, remember the "plow sole" effect. Even spiking compacts under the opener. Harrows compact WET soil too. That Kelly would ruin the muck we have here, SF3 your soil is not same as here.
Tractor tire tracks will be harder, all the combine tracks are packed hard. V ditchers pop out pulled over them.

[furrowtickler]

We use the Gates coulter harrow now on 80% of our acres in the fall .
Very happy with the job it does after all crops . Very versatile unit . When wet we run the coulters deeper and back off on the harrows . When dryer I run the coulters shallower and use the harrows more aggressive.
Covers acres fast . We pull at 13-14 mph and can cover about 100 AC/hr.
To fill ruts though you have to hit those areas twice .

[SASKFARMER3]

The Gumbo is done early in the season and as the fall goes we move north to Clay loam. It opens the ground up freeze drys a bit and then next spring when the sun finally comes out it drys quick. If you have to go again in spring you do in mornings and seed in after noons.

[may-be]

My Kelley disc is a good all round machine! I'm still going but my days are counting down!

Looks like the Kelly is doing a nice job. How deep is the field being worked? We have been unfortunate with the rain that the only tractors in the field here are for pulling grain carts or combines out.