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    How a few rich dairy farmers....

    ...are sabotaging Canada's big beautiful trading future.

    For a moment it seemed all Canadians understood that, facing President Donald Trump’s tariff war, we had to make our economy as resilient and competitive as possible. As Martha Hall Findlay discusses with Brian, there was finally talk of ending Ottawa’s war on oil and gas, building infrastructure and boosting productivity. The government even yanked the aggravating digital services tax. But, explains Findlay, a former Liberal MP, now director of the University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy, politicians just kneecapped nearly every Canadian exporter by exempting our globally detested dairy supply management system from trade talks … forever. Hall Findlay explains how this small cartel of millionaires works, why it’s so powerful, and why it hurts not just consumers, but every other trade-exposed business.


    #2
    Very good podcast.
    The current system defies all sense.
    But over the last 50 years a very successful lobby and marketing arm have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. If only the grains were half as sharp.
    History shows the Pools went to Quebec for support to stymie wheat reform often.
    Everyone in the know has known it has to change but aren't allowed to talk about it.
    I suspect it will take as long to change as did wheat. There is no political will anywhere today.
    What are we giving up for status quo? Maybe DT will do more for our prosperity than hamstrung Ottawa ever could, LoL.

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      #3
      The stupid part about it all is that wisconsin basically has the same size herd as canada... and it actually produces alot more to their gdp than the canadian one does ( which makes no sense to me).

      Plus... even if the us had full access to our dairy market.. we have the population of what... new york city?
      we have such a spread out population that i cant imagine they would gain a hell of alot of market share. People will still buy canadian and infact, i imagine would buy MORE canadian because we could buy local milk directly from our neighbours.
      i work with our own dairy neighbour. Hes amazing. Haul his feed for him.. sell him barley... i use his tractors or whatever in a pinch...


      But i cant get a 5 gallon pail of milk to make my own butter... or cheese.. ( not that i know how) but still. How incredibly effing stupid is that.
      when you make the cheese you pastuerize the stuff anyways.

      Its so stupid. Just absurd.

      " canada has better dairy products"

      Bull cockery!
      our butter isnt even spreadable at room temperature. It was when i was a kid...but it sure isnt now.
      we have 2 kinds of butter... salted.. unsalted. Go down to a grocery store in new york state.... butters... cheeses galore...

      what a dumb ass system. Plus... the incidence of dairy poisoning in the states is basically the same as in canada per capita.
      Last edited by goalieguy847; Jul 7, 2025, 23:41.

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        #4
        If cheaper dairy was sold in Canada, what do you think people would buy? Canadians have shown us over and over again that they will buy cheap over "Canadian". Walmart proves it.

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          #5
          There is no reason why Canadian dairy couldn't be the most cost competitive in the world.

          Imagine a big empty country with nearly infinite land base being afraid of competition from Holland... Where they literally have to ship excess manure out of the country.

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            #6
            How do you keep existing supply managed farms, dairy and poultry viable if you take one of their largest assets, quota, and make it worthless? On a 100 cow dairy the value of that quota today I am guessing is over $5 million or $50000 a cow. As for the price of milk and cheese to a consumer, you really think domestically produced products would become more affordable? Is beef as cheap in Canada as the US? Pork? How about eggs? Weren’t eggs in the US about $10 a dozen due to bird flew? Keep in mind I am not a dairy farmer and no one in my family ever has been.

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              #7
              I'll ask that another way.
              How does the industry remain viable.

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                #8
                Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                I'll ask that another way.
                How does the industry remain viable.
                By becoming the most efficient lowest cost producer in the world.

                The same way every other industry remains viable.

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                  #9
                  I need to be convinced that Canadian butter is better than, say butter from EU countries. Feeding cows palm oil didn't do it for me.

                  But in all fairness, something has to be done about the quotas. Maybe what Australia did with their supply managed dairy?

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                    #10
                    AU and NZ swallowed the poison pill in the 90s and never looked back.
                    NZ friends said it was brutal but necessary.

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