Canadian canola crushers have been screwing us hundreds of millions

[blackpowder]

I think for most farms, export sales reporting will not change the marketing plan at all. The timing of cash flow needs is pre-set by the landlord who wants his rent before the end of Nov, and the lenders, who want to be paid in Jan, Feb, and March, and the Landlord again in April. Not to mention other farm cash flow needs but those are the biggest ones for most farms. So from the time when the combine gets parked and we know our actual yields, until now in April, whether export sales are known or not, most farms simply can not hold on long enough to survive all the low fruit picking that goes on from August to April. Highest yearly prices most years is April 15 to July 15 timeframe. But all that said, I agree, we need export sales reporting.

Cash flow needs timing irrelevant with the tools available.

[blackpowder]

Every American grain company operating in Canada understands the value of an export sale report. It helps with planting decisions, info to the government for responsive programs, rail and transportation logistics , helps farmers make marketing decisions etc etc etc.

The lobby that says it isn't required are a bunch of retards that politicians listen to on both the conservative and liberal side.

It should have been brought in when the CWB was removed at the very least and more likely it should have been implemented when the USA put it in place.

Talk to some of your farm reps and see if they understand it.

The current chair of one of the check off funded farm groups didn't even know what export sales reporting was when he first ran to get on the board. Wet behind the ears and is using the position to favour his eventual political career. He won't rock the boat.

Could you save me the time and tell me which lobby says it isnt required?

[bucket]

Could you save me the time and tell me which lobby says it isnt required?

All of them that take check off funding. They were told 4 years ago by resolutions at the AGMs to get it implemented and on to the radar with politicians. They have done nothing or it would have been studied by the ag or industry committee federally by now. No politician understands it. And I believe it was told to government back when the CWB disappeared it would be helpful in an open market environment.

It should have been implemented long ago. What good does after the fact reporting do for a farmer's marketing plan?

The USDA reports what is sold into the future and grain companies are required to report every week. If the sale is excess of 100000 tonnes it is reported by the end of the day.

So if a grain company makes a sale today into October 2025 for 100000 tonnes it would be reported.

Not after the fact like what happens in Canada and the grain has been bought for less than a respectable price based on transparency.

disclaimer: I am not putting the WCWGA in the group as they are funded with individual choice funding. I think their members understand the principle.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Cash flow needs timing irrelevant with the tools available.

Million dollars below prime through the cash advance should pay a lot of bills on the average farm size. Doesn't take much market appreciation to cover that interest.

[bucket]

A $45 per acre direct payment like what the US is doing wouldn't hurt. I find it interesting when the steel or auto sector needs helps , even though auto prices never fall, help is immediate.

Not so for agriculture.

When the auto sector needed help, Canada provided the equivalent amount the US government was doing for that industry. Farm groups quietly went about ignoring every crisis since. And when it became a crisis , they spoke silently.

It's always crisis management with agriculture. And the help is always conditional.

I watched some of the federal ag debate , I don't think the ECAP program was mentioned.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A $45 per acre direct payment like what the US is doing wouldn't hurt.

Last I checked, land prices and land rent are still positive and increasing.

When they go negative, then maybe we can make a case for subsidies of any kind to agriculture.

Otherwise that money just finds its way directly into competition for dirt to farm.

[bucket]

Good thing your farm can compete with the US treasury and you don't think that impacts the market indirectly. The American farmer is your closest competitor and the grain company in your area competes globally.

[blackpowder]

Million dollars below prime through the cash advance should pay a lot of bills on the average farm size. Doesn't take much market appreciation to cover that interest.

Agreed. Futures markets have tools as well. I haul a lot in the fall. Insure the price after a certain level.The rest after seeding.

[Tucker]

I remember when I was growing up on the farm in the 80's dad was getting the odd government stabilization cheque. It was like 'hey cool, put that on the fuel account.' That sh!t hasn't happened since then. I see US farmers on AgTalk complain that their government cheques take more than a week to show up in their accounts. Canada truly doesn't give a sh!t about food security. If it wouldn't f*ck my business directly I wish they would starve in the east and find out what is truly important in this great country.

[blackpowder]

Our FIDP checks went to bills.
But neighbors who were afloat bought land at $80k/ quarter.
Hard to design any subsidy.

Had a relate in federal government decades ago. Unspoken premise then was eventual/inevitable, ongoing consolidation. Still happening.
Subs prolong while stabilising the rate of consolidation.
Hard to look at other countries tho for sure.