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    #11
    Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
    All good points made but I will add another. Assuming you can buy a comparable 175 hp tractor new for about $240K the 25 year old 7810 only depreciated about 1% a year!. The only reasonable explanation is the unreasonable emissions standards on new machinery. That makes old machinery more popular. It is the same with trucks. Try buying a pre 2004 Pete these days.

    The un funny thing is that the world beyond Canada and the US gets to buy machinery built to work instead of shut down. Also the military, railroads, and aviation are exempt from emissions regs because they need reliable equipment. I wonder when agriculture and transportation will be considered important enough for an exemption.
    72% inflation over those 25 years though, needs to be factored in.

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      #12
      Older equipment is mostly more reliable, but the kicker is getting parts for older equipment is becoming more and more unreliable. And new equipment is priced for the few that can afford it .
      Kinda a catch 22 scenario.

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        #13
        local deere dealer shop has a 4440 that turned a bearing and buggered the block.cant get a new block from deere. Not available so looking for a used one.How many of those engines are in use today still.Good time to be in the wrecking business.

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          #14
          How many 4440’s are still in use? I would think a large majority. It sounds like you bearing issue is a bit out of the ordinary. 7.6L motor churning out 135hp is why you should have a 20,000hr life if you keep to the maintenance schedule. What they put in a 135hp tractors today would make these old school engineers surely cringe.

          https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=450510&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1

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            #15
            Originally posted by fcr View Post
            local deere dealer shop has a 4440 that turned a bearing and buggered the block.cant get a new block from deere. Not available so looking for a used one.How many of those engines are in use today still.Good time to be in the wrecking business.
            very few wreckers left in manitoba now , wrecker in grandview sold everything for scrap this spring past

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              #16
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              Older equipment is mostly more reliable, but the kicker is getting parts for older equipment is becoming more and more unreliable. And new equipment is priced for the few that can afford it .
              Kinda a catch 22 scenario.
              Must be why large farms flip every piece of equipment every yr.
              Warranty..parts available..
              No need for grease guns..no fancy heated shops or large sheds?
              Get your accountant to figure it out.
              Some just started doing it after yrs of running older equipment..
              Plus looks impressive..

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                #17
                Large farm here leases (rents) 3 new combines every year and owns one 15-20 year old machine. Owner said the leased machines each cost $250,000 each to use for harvest.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                  Large farm here leases (rents) 3 new combines every year and owns one 15-20 year old machine. Owner said the leased machines each cost $250,000 each to use for harvest.
                  $250000 per machine? How many acres do they do with each machine? That number surprises me, not sure how they pencil that.

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                    #19
                    About 28,000+/-
                    Number seems close looking at values of year old used machines (depreciation).

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                      About 28,000+/-
                      Number seems close looking at values of year old used machines (depreciation).
                      28,000 acres per machine per year?

                      The dollar figure seems accurate, based on what a new machine is supposedly worth versus a year old machine. Surprised it's not more than that today.

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