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  • farmboy44
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 198

    #11
    Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
    All good points made but I will add another. Assuming you can buy a comparable 175 hp tractor new for about $240K the 25 year old 7810 only depreciated about 1% a year!. The only reasonable explanation is the unreasonable emissions standards on new machinery. That makes old machinery more popular. It is the same with trucks. Try buying a pre 2004 Pete these days.

    The un funny thing is that the world beyond Canada and the US gets to buy machinery built to work instead of shut down. Also the military, railroads, and aviation are exempt from emissions regs because they need reliable equipment. I wonder when agriculture and transportation will be considered important enough for an exemption.
    72% inflation over those 25 years though, needs to be factored in.

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21938

      #12
      Older equipment is mostly more reliable, but the kicker is getting parts for older equipment is becoming more and more unreliable. And new equipment is priced for the few that can afford it .
      Kinda a catch 22 scenario.

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      • fcr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2021
        • 558

        #13
        local deere dealer shop has a 4440 that turned a bearing and buggered the block.cant get a new block from deere. Not available so looking for a used one.How many of those engines are in use today still.Good time to be in the wrecking business.

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        • workboots
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 126

          #14
          How many 4440’s are still in use? I would think a large majority. It sounds like you bearing issue is a bit out of the ordinary. 7.6L motor churning out 135hp is why you should have a 20,000hr life if you keep to the maintenance schedule. What they put in a 135hp tractors today would make these old school engineers surely cringe.

          https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=450510&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1

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          • cropgrower
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 2985

            #15
            Originally posted by fcr View Post
            local deere dealer shop has a 4440 that turned a bearing and buggered the block.cant get a new block from deere. Not available so looking for a used one.How many of those engines are in use today still.Good time to be in the wrecking business.
            very few wreckers left in manitoba now , wrecker in grandview sold everything for scrap this spring past

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            • Partners
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 3105

              #16
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              Older equipment is mostly more reliable, but the kicker is getting parts for older equipment is becoming more and more unreliable. And new equipment is priced for the few that can afford it .
              Kinda a catch 22 scenario.
              Must be why large farms flip every piece of equipment every yr.
              Warranty..parts available..
              No need for grease guns..no fancy heated shops or large sheds?
              Get your accountant to figure it out.
              Some just started doing it after yrs of running older equipment..
              Plus looks impressive..

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              • Taiga
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2018
                • 1477

                #17
                Large farm here leases (rents) 3 new combines every year and owns one 15-20 year old machine. Owner said the leased machines each cost $250,000 each to use for harvest.

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                • Hamloc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3944

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                  Large farm here leases (rents) 3 new combines every year and owns one 15-20 year old machine. Owner said the leased machines each cost $250,000 each to use for harvest.
                  $250000 per machine? How many acres do they do with each machine? That number surprises me, not sure how they pencil that.

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                  • Taiga
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 1477

                    #19
                    About 28,000+/-
                    Number seems close looking at values of year old used machines (depreciation).

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                    • AlbertaFarmer5
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 12544

                      #20
                      Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                      About 28,000+/-
                      Number seems close looking at values of year old used machines (depreciation).
                      28,000 acres per machine per year?

                      The dollar figure seems accurate, based on what a new machine is supposedly worth versus a year old machine. Surprised it's not more than that today.

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