BS Chuck.

[fjlip]

Thanks AF5, great evidence! Excellent!

[Guest]

Blah blah blah. While some people argue with themselves in their echo chamber, this is the reality
https://247newsaroundtheworld.com/news/us-china-call-truce-to-cooperate-on-fixing-climate-crisis/

[furrowtickler]

the fight against global warming must be working ...
//youtu.be/lmJd3HfT8mc

[chuckChuck]

Climate sensitivity doesn't change the fact that increasing CO2 levels are causing global temperatures to rise. Estimating climate sensitivity is important in determining what the potential range of change will be.

A5 wants us to believe that global warming and climate change are nothing to worry about and that changes will be small or not at all. The current science does not support A5's opinion.

Charney in 1979 - 40 years ago, said the range of climate sensitivity is between 1.5-4.5 degrees warming for a doubling of C02 levels from pre industrial levels of 280ppm.

From more recent science "Now, bringing together evidence from observed warming, Earth’s distant past and climate models, as well as advances in our scientific understanding of the climate, our findings suggest that the range of ECS is likely to be between 2.6C and 4.1C."

https://skepticalscience.com/why-low-end-sensitivity-ruled-out.html https://skepticalscience.com/why-low-end-sensitivity-ruled-out.html

Keep in mind:
"the last time the atmospheric CO₂ amounts were this high was more than 3 million years ago, when temperature was 2°–3°C (3.6°–5.4°F) higher than during the pre-industrial era, and sea level was 15–25 meters (50–80 feet) higher than today."

"Global atmospheric carbon dioxide was 409.8 ± 0.1 ppm in 2019, a new record high. That is an increase of 2.5 ± 0.1 ppm from 2018, the same as the increase between 2017 and 2018. In the 1960s, the global growth rate of atmospheric carbon dioxide was roughly 0.6 ± 0.1 ppm per year. Between 2009-18, however, the growth rate has been 2.3 ppm per year. The annual rate of increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide over the past 60 years is about 100 times faster than previous natural increases, such as those that occurred at the end of the last ice age 11,000-17,000 years ago."

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide

Regardless of the sensitivity range we need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

A5 is blowing smoke to argue that we should do nothing and has unbelievably even suggested we need to keep burning fossil fuels to stop CO2 levels from falling!

When it comes to human caused climate change A5 is in full denial!

[fjlip]

"Climate sensitivity doesn't change the fact that increasing CO2 levels are causing global temperatures to rise."

Maybe, but take a survey of northern countries, ask WHO wants it COLDER?

I predict ZERO %. There a consensus, earth is fine, warmer is better, equals LIFE, green, healthy, even LESS VIRUS. Cold is death, hunger, Virus heaven.

What should we chose?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Climate sensitivity doesn't change the fact that increasing CO2 levels are causing global temperatures to rise. Regardless of the sensitivity range we need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

You just did it again. Do you not learn anything? I just went through this, yet you repeated it again.

What if climate sensitivity to CO2 is negative as it has been throughout most of geologic history?
What if it is zero, as indicated in your link from Climate Brief?

Read the bolded statement again. No wonder you keep reverting to using the word believe.

So no amount of evidence could ever sway your "belief". That is not how science works. That is how cults and superstitions work. They prey on the week minded, the uneducated, the ignorant.

When you apply this type of reasoning, it just reinforces that this has more in common with a religious cult than with science.

[chuckChuck]

So do you want hotter and dryer summers in the southern prairies? I sure as hell don't and most farmers would say the same!

Even with climate change our winters are going to be cold because of our latitude and mid continental climate.

If you want a mild winter move south to the sun belt.

[chuckChuck]

You just did it again. Do you not learn anything? I just went through this, yet you repeated it again.

What if climate sensitivity to CO2 is negative as it has been throughout most of geologic history?
What if it is zero, as indicated in your link from Climate Brief?

Read the bolded statement again. No wonder you keep reverting to using the word believe.

So no amount of evidence could ever sway your "belief". That is not how science works. That is how cults and superstitions work. They prey on the week minded, the uneducated, the ignorant.

When you apply this type of reasoning, it just reinforces that this has more in common with a religious cult than with science.

A5 climate sensitivity range is not zero or negative. Charney said 1.5- 4.5 degrees with a doubling of CO2 from pre industrial levels. The latest science says 2-4 degrees approximately. Neither are good news. Time to move on A5 you are grasping at straws.

[Partners]

It's minus 2 and snowing again.
Want it colder move North chucky.

[chuckChuck]

A couple of weeks ago it was relatively hot and very dry and drought was looming

In April I will take -2 and wet over hot and extremely dry any time.