Canola seed treatment

[jdg364]

Are people still spending the $70-90/bag for lubiderm on their canola seed? I’ve heard that there are a couple new seed treatments on the market now, and wondering if people are trying the new and improved stuff.

This past spring (north sask) it seemed that people who seeded in first half may really struggled with flea beetles, last year it was cutworms, didn’t matter what treatment they used.

Our farm didn’t use any extra seed treatment, and we still ended up spraying 25% of our cnl acres.. probably in line or a bit below the area average.

[Jordy2323]

Here lumiderm is a waste of money. Now since they aren't the new kid on the block anymore, they have come out and admitted that they are only really stonger on cutworms, not flea beatles.
Spraying for flea beatles varies from year to year. Like you, most years we spray about 25%, and other one off years guys here have sprayed 4 times.
2018 flea beatles cleaned up fields over a weekend, so now everyone jumps into the sprayer a lot quicker than we used to.

[farmaholic]

Read em and weep. Look at the rate required for flea beetle control versus cutworm control(or suppression or what ever the "F" they are claiming).

$o at $70-90 a bag how much flea beetle control are you really getting?

Pirates!!!!! But we so willingly turn over the bounty!

[bucket]

Why can you not buy bare seed if you know you are spraying for insects anyway?

I have asked numerous times to sell just bare canola seed...then I dont have to guess whether I will be spraying....just go out with pounce and slow them down...

From what I have seen ...bare mustard pops out of ground faster than treated canola with the best genetics...

[Partners]

Have been getting fortenza advanced on the Dekalb canola.
Works very good.
Never spray for beetles .
BUTEO is the new one for next yr.

[biglentil]

Flea Beatles are bad but these devil beatles live up to their name.

[fjlip]

We don't have Devils, Fortenza Advanced seems to keep fleas down long enough...
and apparently these DEVILS won't allow me to attach a jpg? Tried several pics?

[TASFarms]

Fortenza Is the same active as lumiderm. Must be a higher rate?

[the big wheel]

Not much works when it’s dry and the canola is slow moving except spraying. It depends a lot on the conditions.

[Grahamp]

We don’t spray for flee beetles, I used to every year but they need to bite to die, so I finally decided 3 years ago, you know what I am just going to leave them.

It would drive me crazy the agronomist would come out and say “I’m seeing more flee beetles than I would like, we better give them a shot of something.” So now I have to stop the end of preseed burn off, falling behind there, meet the Chem rep somewhere, argue about thresholds for awhile and finally spray.

So in a very rare moment of clarity I fired the agronomist and quit spraying, I don’t care how many flee beetles I see. If I have to reseed I’ll reseed but haven’t had to yet. Saving nothing but money.

Joking aside in my opinion the most important trait when selecting a variety is early season vigor. That means overcoming the extreme mental deficiency that causes you to grow Nexerra’s of any kind.

I do like Lumiderm though as cutworms have gotten to be a bigger problem here every year, and so far it does a good job of that. I miss spraying Lorsban though, I liked the headaches and the extra finger that I was starting to grow.