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    #41
    For the most part evolution has been kind to the human race, except for one flaw, if a human doesn't understand the concept of logic or common sense after 30 years, their heart would stop beating.

    Some departments in Universities would close, but governments would become efficient.

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      #42
      That’s the beauty of democracy. The majority have accepted or are going along with this climate change ideology. I also feel that the majority subscribe to NIMBY. That means the majority will not push back until it really hits them in the pocket book. Of course it will be somebody else’s problem or responsibility until it isn’t. A lot of damage will be done by then.

      Have a great day.

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        #43
        Typical Liberal and Ndp tactics. Keep brainwashing and buying votes. Very few city people are affected right now but the producers are squeezed enormously by such a tax grab. It’s easy to do a search and find out how much money they stole on the corrupt tax but try to find out how this carbon steel is being used to fight climate change and yes crickets. I bet not one dime is going into climate change but rather into general revenue to pay for the reckless spending that the 2 brainwashing parties have joined up to screw western Canada. I can’t wait until food prices double or triple then we will see who supports who. Mind you then the ball babies will blame the farmers for expensive food. What a crock of sh-t. For somebody not to see through this nonsense spells volumes about who they are and their ability to forward think.

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          #44
          So is that right that the province of Quebec is exempt ?
          I maybe heard that wrong.

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            #45
            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
            So is that right that the province of Quebec is exempt ?
            I maybe heard that wrong.
            No, you are right. All provinces were given the option of setting up their own cap and trade or carbon tax system by the Federal government when the carbon tax was set up. Quebec did and it was recognized as a substitiute for the federal tax. Notley also had instituted a carbon tax system in Alberta which would have superceeded the Federal tax however the UPC scrapped it so now Alberta falls under the federal carbon tax system.

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              #46
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              So is that right that the province of Quebec is exempt ?
              I maybe heard that wrong.
              That distinct society probably gets to make their own rules.
              How can some provinces be fighting it in court as unconstitutional and one be exempt?
              Something doesn't add up.

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                #47
                Political parties here lost elections because of carbon or one won it because it would axe it.

                Dead opposite from you guys your parties win because of carbon tax.

                Guess were a bunch of right wing loonies here in oz but dont give a rats our economy is commodity based mining gas ag wine wool forestry oil etc etc

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
                  Political parties here lost elections because of carbon or one won it because it would axe it.

                  Dead opposite from you guys your parties win because of carbon tax.

                  Guess were a bunch of right wing loonies here in oz but dont give a rats our economy is commodity based mining gas ag wine wool forestry oil etc etc
                  Do you have much of a rural/urban disconnect? Or do urbanites know what butters their bread, unlike here?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    No, you are right. All provinces were given the option of setting up their own cap and trade or carbon tax system by the Federal government when the carbon tax was set up. Quebec did and it was recognized as a substitiute for the federal tax. Notley also had instituted a carbon tax system in Alberta which would have superceeded the Federal tax however the UPC scrapped it so now Alberta falls under the federal carbon tax system.
                    Actually Dml while you are correct former Premier Notley had instituted a carbon tax it did not superceed the federal tax, it would have in fact mirrored the federal tax. Rising to $40 a tonne in 2021 and $50 a tonne in 2022. It will certainly will be interesting to see what happens in Quebec. The cap and trade system in Quebec is supposed to increase and mirror the federal system. I googled the most recent carbon credit joint auction between Quebec and California in November 2020, the median price was $22.64 CAD. So as per usual Quebec is getting a better deal than the rest of Canada but that should give other provinces an avenue to fight the carbon tax in court, the fact that it is not evenly applied across the country, might be our only hope!!
                    Last edited by Hamloc; Dec 12, 2020, 22:45.

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                      #50
                      Im really not sure.

                      Probably aware of farming at least, due to 3 yrs of drought fires floods.

                      Doubt anyone is anti farming other the PETA even the glypho brigade are not anti farming just do it without chems.

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