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    #61
    April 10, UK had 7800 cases, and 1149 deaths= 14.7%

    Oct 30, UK had 24000 cases, and 274 deaths= 1.14%

    We don't know hospitalizations, not given nor are the % mild.

    Whole planet together still 99% of CASES are mild.

    And there is NO WAY that each and every one with no symptoms has been tested!
    Therefore, USE YOUR intelligence and admit all the percentages are NOT EXACT.

    And Masks well, enjoy the satisfaction...

    World Health Organization (WHO), June 2020

    https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/332293/WHO-2019-nCov-IPC_Masks-2020.4-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/332293/WHO-2019-nCov-IPC_Masks-2020.4-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

    “The likely disadvantages of the use of mask by healthy people in the general public include:

    -potential increased risk of self-contamination due to the manipulation of a face mask and subsequently touching eyes with contaminated hands;
    -potential self-contamination that can occur if non- medical masks are not changed when wet or soiled.

    This can create favorable conditions for microorganism to amplify;
    -potential headache and/or breathing difficulties, depending on type of mask used;
    -potential development of facial skin lesions, irritant dermatitis or worsening acne, when used frequently for long hours;

    -difficulty with communicating clearly; potential discomfort;
    -a false sense of security, leading to potentially lower adherence to other critical preventive measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene;
    -poor compliance with mask wearing, in particular by young children;

    -waste management issues; improper mask disposal leading to increased litter in public places, risk of contamination to street cleaners and environment hazard;
    -difficulty communicating for deaf persons who rely on lip reading;

    -disadvantages for or difficulty wearing them, especially for children, developmentally challenged persons, those with mental illness, elderly persons with cognitive impairment, those with asthma or chronic respiratory or breathing problems, those who have had facial trauma or recent oral maxillofacial surgery, and those living in hot and humid environments.

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      #62
      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
      it will all disappear after November 3rd like you have stated?
      Just from the news cycle. Like the others SARS, MERS, West Nile, Zika. Still around but nobody thinks about them.

      I would ask Boris what is the plan after Dec 4 if a second lockdown doesnt work? 3rd one, 4th? Might as well turn out the lights by that time. Be nothing left to save.

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        #63
        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/wrha-parkview-place-covid-19-crisis-samir-sinha-1.5784579 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/wrha-parkview-place-covid-19-crisis-samir-sinha-1.5784579

        Here is a Revera owned seniors home in Winnipeg that has had issues Long before Covid. A good example of why for profit care homes are a mistake without good regulations and enforcement.

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          #64
          MIKE HARRIS IS RAKING IN PROFITS FROM LONG-TERM CARE SYSTEM HE HELPED CREATE

          Jan Malek
          4 months ago
          Twenty-five years ago, Mike Harris and his Progressive Conservative party ousted Rae's NDP government in Ontario, starting the so-called "Common Sense Revolution."

          Pledging to tackle Ontario's deficit, the Harris government pushed tax reductions and slashed public spending on health care, education and social services. The government closed hospitals and eliminated the jobs of thousands of nurses, infamously comparing them to obsolete hula hoop makers.

          How Ontario cared for seniors did not escape the cuts. Harris' government reduced the public role in long-term care, relaxing regulations and lessening public oversight. This wasn't the start of privatization, but it certainly opened the doors much wider. Under the Harris government, the growing corporate business of caring for seniors flourished and corporate players such as Sienna Senior Living, Revera, Extendicare and Chartwell expanded their reach, providing seniors with independent living, assisted living and long-term care housing – for a price.

          Flash forward 25 years, as successive Conservative and Liberal governments continue this privatization trend.

          Now, in the middle of a global pandemic, the country is witnessing the true vulnerability of seniors in long-term care homes. To date, more than 7,800 people have died from COVID-19 in Canada. More than 6,500 of them – 84 per cent – have died in these homes, according to data compiled by freelance journalist Nora Loreto.

          As we have written about before, the spread of COVID-19 has been linked to the working conditions in these homes, particularly ones that are run by private operators. Study after study has shown that privatization means less care. Allowing corporations whose primary interest is shareholder profits to be in control of care decisions for vulnerable seniors leaves the seniors and their caregivers at risk.

          Let's look at one seniors' housing company in particular.

          Chartwell Homes describes itself as an "open-ended real estate trust which indirectly owns and operates a complete range of seniors housing communities, from independent supportive living through assisted living to long term care. It is the largest operator in the Canadian seniors living sector with over 200 quality retirement communities in four provinces, including properties under development."

          The company operates homes in B.C., Alberta, Ontario and Quebec and employs more than 15,000 people, most of them women.

          And the chair of Chartwell's Board of Directors? It's none other than former Ontario premier Mike Harris. His tenure in the position dates back to at least 2004 according to online records. He was premier of Ontario from 1995 to 2002.

          The rest of Chartwell's corporate directors come from big banks, real estate, tax, audit and investment corporations. It's a full list of corporate heavy weights without a single health care or seniors' representative.

          Shareholder profits
          Reading Chartwell's 144-page 2019 Annual report, its focus is clearly on its real estate portfolio, growth and on profit returns for investors. It's about making money for shareholders, reporting income and growth, not about caring for seniors.

          In May, the Toronto Star reported that "three of the largest for-profit nursing home operators in Ontario, which have had disproportionately high numbers of COVID-19 cases and deaths, have together paid out more than $1.5 billion in dividends to shareholders over the last decade."

          The article states, "This massive sum does not include $138 million paid in executive compensation and $20 million in stock buybacks (a technique that can boost share prices), according to the financial reports of the province's three biggest publicly traded long-term-care home companies, Extendicare, Sienna Senior Living and Chartwell Retirement Residences."

          Mike Harris' pay at Chartwell
          Harris has profited a lot from his part time boardroom-based job with Chartwell. According to the Toronto Star, he was paid $229,500 last year.


          The Star also reports that "Harris had more than $7 million in Chartwell holdings at the end of 2019 (its last fiscal year) – including $4.29 million in 'deferred trust units' (akin to shares) that reflect his accumulated compensation over the years (deferred until retirement)." According to the article Chartwell's communications department and a forensic chartered accountant verified these numbers.

          Unifor, a union that represents workers at Chartwell, launched a campaign last year calling for better pay for caregivers in Chartwell's homes. "Chartwell pays many of their staff minimum wage," Unifor's website states. "In fact, most of their employees do not receive a living wage. To make matters worse, Chartwell has proposed all minimum wage employees have their wages frozen until 2020. These workers provide care and compassion to residents, work that is so important that the Ontario Labour Relations Board has consistently denied them the right to strike, putting them under the same legislation as other essential service providers, such as hospital workers."

          Katha Fortier, a Unifor spokesperson, said it's ludicrous the former premier would make more than $200,000 for his part-time job in Chartwell's corporate boardroom while front line workers in homes are paid "abysmal, poverty wages."

          The inability to make a living wage in a home requires many personal support workers to take jobs in multiple seniors' homes. This, and a lack of personal protective equipment, have been cited as key contributors to the deadly spread of COVID-19.

          Ford pledges to hold profiteers accountable
          Ontario Premier Doug Ford said he plans to hold private companies that continued to draw profits while seniors in their long-term care homes lay sick and dying accountable. It's not clear if that includes Mike Harris. In fact, Premier Ford said he was unaware of Harris' connection to Chartwell.


          Premier Ford is facing criticism from families, unions, seniors' advocates and other concerned groups. Not only was his government told about the crisis in long-term care before COVID-19 came to Canada and didn't act on it, the government also contributed to the crisis by significantly reducing inspections of long-term care homes, the majority of which are owned by private operators, including Chartwell.

          Groups are also accusing the premier of ignoring the lessons we have learned about the risks and dangers of privatization.

          Right now, the Ford government is forging ahead with Bill 175, Connecting People to Home and Community Care Act 2020. If it passes, which the Ford government is trying to do at breakneck speed, it will result in the handover of almost all government oversight of home care and care provided in retirement residences by personal support workers (PSWs) to private companies. It will do nothing to address the critical shortage of PSWs or improve their working conditions.

          The Ontario Health Coalition has been calling for a halt to the Bill, saying it will impact more than 730,000 Ontarians who use home care services and many thousands more who require community care services. The coalition says the new legislation would allow the Ontario government to make changes without Legislature approval, dismantle all remaining public governance and control of home care and hand it off to provider companies, including for-profit companies, and expand privatization not only of home care, but also potentially of parts of hospital and long-term care. Send Premier Ford a letter on this issue.

          Ignoring the harsh lessons of the COVID-19 crisis, including the perils of privatization, is equivalent to telling every person – living and passed – in long-term care and other seniors' homes they don't matter.

          In a sad, twisted irony, Mike Harris could reap further benefits from any expanded home care privatization. He and his wife Laura started a private home care franchise in Toronto in 2012.

          It's time we take the words "private" and "profit" out of how we care for our seniors.
          Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 31, 2020, 17:00.

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            #65
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Just from the news cycle. Like the others SARS, MERS, West Nile, Zika. Still around but nobody thinks about them.

            I would ask Boris what is the plan after Dec 4 if a second lockdown doesnt work? 3rd one, 4th? Might as well turn out the lights by that time. Be nothing left to save.
            Ya that’s because the hospitals are not filling up with people with these diseases! Are you really this stupid? I think we already know the answer to that question! LOL
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 31, 2020, 16:36.

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              #66
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Ya that’s because the hospitals are not filling up with people with these diseases! Are you really this stupid? I think we already know the answer to that question! LOL
              Which curve are we flattening this time? Where are the field hospitals that could have been set up in the past 6 months? The old Plains is still empty when the NDP shut it down, why didnt we recommission that for the pandemic?

              Maybe there is a 3rd wave coming in january, shouldnt we start getting ready for it? Or is the vaccine coming?

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                #67
                https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/hospitals-being-stretched-in-winnipeg-due-to-covid-19-1.5168348 https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/hospitals-being-stretched-in-winnipeg-due-to-covid-19-1.5168348

                WINNIPEG -- The rising number of COVID-19 cases in Manitoba has resulted in less space in intensive care units, and changes are coming to hospitals as part of the new code red restrictions.

                Lanette Siragusa, the chief nursing officer with Shared Health, announced Friday that ICU capacity in Winnipeg was at 96 per cent as of Friday, up from 92 per cent on Wednesday.

                Of the 71 beds, 68 beds were in use, with 19 occupied by COVID-19 patients.
                Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 1, 2020, 08:03.

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                  #68
                  St. Boniface Hospital intensive care unit officially over capacity
                  By Anya Nazeravich Global News
                  Posted October 29, 2020 9:17 pm
                  Updated October 30, 2020 8:17 am

                  https://globalnews.ca/news/7431764/st-boniface-hospital-intensive-care-unit-officially-over-capacity/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7431764/st-boniface-hospital-intensive-care-unit-officially-over-capacity/

                  St. Boniface Hospital’s intensive care unit is officially over capacity.

                  The Intensive Care Medicine Surgery (ICMS) unit, where the hospital says it cares for its most critical patients, has all 14 beds occupied.

                  A memo posted to the hospital’s website says they have had to admit a patient to the Intensive Care Cardiac Surgery (ICCS) unit as a result.

                  The ICCS unit is also unable to take any new patients as staff have been furloughed due to exposure from a patient.

                  The hospital says more than half the patients needing critical care are positive for COVID-19.

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                    #69
                    https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-health-north-dakota-6b69d7c8a9ab2a984f5a0951ecbf5ec9 https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-health-north-dakota-6b69d7c8a9ab2a984f5a0951ecbf5ec9

                    Coronavirus surge is filling North Dakota’s hospitals
                    By JAMES MacPHERSONOctober 30, 2020

                    BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) — The rampant spread of the coronavirus in North Dakota is putting its hospitals to the test, as the steady influx of people requiring in-patient stays has left only about 200 regular beds and 20 in intensive care units vacant, health officials indicated Friday.

                    After escaping the surge in cases that many other states were dealing with early on during the pandemic, North Dakota has the nation’s highest number of new cases per 100,000 people over the past two weeks, according to The COVID Tracking Project.

                    The state reached a grim new milestone on Friday, as its COVID-19 death toll eclipsed the 500 mark, rising by 13 to 512, according to state health data. Nearly half of those deaths, 241, have occurred this month.

                    Hospitalizations from the disease caused by the coronavirus also reached a new high for the state, 191, with a net increase of seven since Thursday.

                    The surge is stressing the state’s health system, and Sanford Health Bismarck President Michael LeBeau expressed worry on Friday about where things are headed.

                    “I do have a concern that the rate of growth is not sustainable,” LeBeau said.

                    He said medical facilities throughout the state are meeting regularly and working together to provide the best care they can to COVID-19 patients, but he hopes the public will do better at wearing face masks and social distancing to help slow the progression of the disease.

                    There were only 216 available inpatient beds and 20 intensive care unit beds in North Dakota hospitals on Friday, according to state data. In Fargo, there were three ICU beds and six regular beds at Essentia Health. There were three ICU beds and no ICU beds at Sanford Health.

                    In Bismarck, CHI St. Alexius Medical Center had 13 inpatient beds and one ICU bed. At nearby Sanford Health, there was only one ICU bed and no inpatient beds.

                    The state health department reported 1,357 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Friday, which was also a record high for North Dakota, eclipsing the record set one day earlier by 135 cases.

                    Health officials reported a daily positivity rate of 12.1%. And the rolling average number of daily new cases has increased by more than 42% in the last two weeks, according to Johns Hopkins University researchers.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      St. Boniface Hospital intensive care unit officially over capacity
                      By Anya Nazeravich Global News
                      Posted October 29, 2020 9:17 pm
                      Updated October 30, 2020 8:17 am

                      https://globalnews.ca/news/7431764/st-boniface-hospital-intensive-care-unit-officially-over-capacity/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7431764/st-boniface-hospital-intensive-care-unit-officially-over-capacity/

                      St. Boniface Hospital’s intensive care unit is officially over capacity.

                      The Intensive Care Medicine Surgery (ICMS) unit, where the hospital says it cares for its most critical patients, has all 14 beds occupied.

                      A memo posted to the hospital’s website says they have had to admit a patient to the Intensive Care Cardiac Surgery (ICCS) unit as a result.

                      The ICCS unit is also unable to take any new patients as staff have been furloughed due to exposure from a patient.

                      The hospital says more than half the patients needing critical care are positive for COVID-19.
                      And I would bet the farm Ivermectin or Hydrocloriquine or high dose intravenous vitamin d has not been tried on a single patient in Canada. The medical system has been corrupted by the same globalists hell bent on forcing a vaccine on every single person. The vaccine will contain luciferin a luminous bio marker so you can easily be scanned with a black light.
                      Last edited by biglentil; Nov 1, 2020, 07:23.

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                        #71
                        Anti vaxxer? Almost everybody is hoping for a safe and effective vaacine for Covid 19.

                        Research has not shown any of your other suggested treatments to be safe and or effective. Vitamin D may be helpful.

                        But many researchers are looking at various drugs for treatment.

                        FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

                        https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/fda-letter-stakeholders-do-not-use-ivermectin-intended-animals-treatment-covid-19-humans
                        Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 1, 2020, 07:36.

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                          #72
                          Wiseguy, you really don't really have much intelligent to ever say do you? LOL

                          And you are not concerned about the overflowing hospitals? Well you better hope that you and your relatives get the healthcare they need when the all the beds are full and all elective surgery and treatment is cancelled.

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                            #73
                            And the REASON "CASES", are up is NO maskers anywhere I have seen, are wearing them correctly and getting majority of INFECTED are wearers! Thanks a lot!

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