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      #22
      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
      AB5

      "Not sure how this thread got so Far off track. Was meant to be humorous. "

      Have you read your posts, your guiltiest of all for going off track and lack of humor.

      Now don't be like the Champ and lose it on me!
      You are correct, I responded to Chuck's off topic rants here. I'm as guilty as anyone.

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        #23
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        You are correct, I responded to Chuck's off topic rants here. I'm as guilty as anyone.
        Even when I stay on track you are not happy. You have done your fair share of mud slinging.

        As I said before present your argument. Back it up with some credible evidence. I have done that many times and the BS hits the fan on Sillyville.

        Some of you who think that First Nations have all the benefits should go live on a reserve for a while and live their experience. Then tell us how it went.

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          #24
          Love the Champ "I says pardon me". Here is some history on the Champ, did you know the champ character was originally created by the McLean brothers of " I've seen pubic hair" fame and then refined and carried on by " Brother Jake Edwards " of Rock 101 out of Vancouver.

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            #25
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Even when I stay on track you are not happy. You have done your fair share of mud slinging.

            As I said before present your argument. Back it up with some credible evidence. I have done that many times and the BS hits the fan on Sillyville.

            Some of you who think that First Nations have all the benefits should go live on a reserve for a while and live their experience. Then tell us how it went.
            So is it the brand new house for $5000 I believe is the number? The $100,000 cheque when they turn 18? The monthly cheque from the government? The free college/university education? Or the tax free income that they can earn that makes life so hard on the reserve?

            Ever asked a native Canadian how come they can’t get ahead? The answer I get is that as soon as they start showing some progress, others come over and start mooching off of them. Eating their groceries, borrowing and wrecking the brand new vehicle they bought, having parties in their house and wrecking it while they are away working. Or outright stealing from them.

            It isn’t the policies that are in place that are hurting the people on reserves. It is themselves.

            I know if I had all those luxuries at my disposal, life would be a lot different. And in case you can’t read between the lines, I am saying it would be much better.

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              #26
              Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
              So is it the brand new house for $5000 I believe is the number? The $100,000 cheque when they turn 18? The monthly cheque from the government? The free college/university education? Or the tax free income that they can earn that makes life so hard on the reserve?

              Ever asked a native Canadian how come they can’t get ahead? The answer I get is that as soon as they start showing some progress, others come over and start mooching off of them. Eating their groceries, borrowing and wrecking the brand new vehicle they bought, having parties in their house and wrecking it while they are away working. Or outright stealing from them.

              It isn’t the policies that are in place that are hurting the people on reserves. It is themselves.

              I know if I had all those luxuries at my disposal, life would be a lot different. And in case you can’t read between the lines, I am saying it would be much better.
              Nothing like a little racist stereotyping. LOL. You probably don’t even know you are doing it! Have You got A5’s intellectual deficit when it comes to sweeping generalizations? Did you miss the stats on reserve poverty, Housing water, schooling, social problems? Lots live in third world conditions in a system that they didn’t design under an act they do not control. But don’t let that stop you from blaming them for all their problems!

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                #27
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Nothing like a little racist stereotyping. LOL. You probably don’t even know you are doing it! Have You got A5’s intellectual deficit when it comes to sweeping generalizations? Did you miss the stats on reserve poverty, Housing water, schooling, social problems? Lots live in third world conditions in a system that they didn’t design under an act they do not control. But don’t let that stop you from blaming them for all their problems!
                Are All of those problems you list a result of lack of opportunities, or squandered opportunities?

                Going back to a previous good point you made about The socioeconomic status and trying to get out of it. I think we can angry on this. Someone's social economic status going up should in no way be an impediment to what they can potentially achieve. Access to education being a very big part of that. The very existence of hereditary chiefs goes against the concept of equal opportunity.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Nothing like a little racist stereotyping. LOL. You probably don’t even know you are doing it! Have You got A5’s intellectual deficit when it comes to sweeping generalizations? Did you miss the stats on reserve poverty, Housing water, schooling, social problems? Lots live in third world conditions in a system that they didn’t design under an act they do not control. But don’t let that stop you from blaming them for all their problems!
                  Is it racist stereotyping if it came out of the mouth of the people from the group you are accusing me of stereotyping? All I did above is repeat what I was told. Are those people racist against their own people then? But you don’t want to see that. It goes against your narrative therefore I am racist.

                  Did you miss the stats on chiefs sloughing money from government programs designed to help with the same water, housing, schooling, and social problems you speak of? OH RIGHT....THEY WON’T LET ANYBODY SEE THOSE STATS! Who’s fault is it really at this point if they are living in third world conditions?

                  All the opportunities are there. They just chose not to take them, or one or two people stepped on the rest of their own people to get ahead.

                  Stating the truth is not to be misconstrued as racism.
                  Last edited by flea beetle; Jun 10, 2020, 11:24.

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                    #29
                    I believe people from your side of the spectrum said it was racist to stop people from coming from the hot spot where covid originated as well. Was it not?

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                      #30
                      This chuck sounds like hes never lived near a reserve or knows an actual native. I have second cousins that are half native. Some are great and do well. Others, well not so much.Chuck we have the reserve two miles away. Around pigeon lake for example they fish with nets in winter. First thing they do with the catch is go around the country side selling them. They own numerous businesses around the lake, one being cedar crest inn. They bought it and it folded in one year under native management. Now it is back running but leased out. They own probably 30-40 quarters of non reserve land by battle lake and area yet dont farm a single acre. All rented out.
                      Oh and I forgot to mention you should go to pigeon lake reserve and ask a native to show you their dump. They literally dump on a lease site. It is not an official dump by any means. They just take their trash there and throw it a heap and drive away. Then one of em lights it and start over again. Yet a pipeline is being built and they protest to protect the environment. Dont protest if you think throwing your trash in a 10 foot pile is justifiable.

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