Not likely that it was targeted on purpose. They will receive more bad than good from this. Just incompetence and stupidity of the Ukrainians for flying there.
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The best long term sanction would be for every carrier in the world to stop flying into this shithole. If you want to be astonished, go to one of the flight tracker sites and see just how many airliners are still overflying Iran.
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Spoken like a true ignorant a*****le westerner.Originally posted by LEP View PostYou have almost zero information to spout this opinion. If leaders like Trudeau even hint that it was a possibility, then it is almost a certainty that it was the Iranians. They wouldn't even discuss it otherwise.
And you wonder why people look down on us as a society.
I've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.
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We certainly need to separate the people from the regime in all cases, however, the shia sunni divide has been going on long before the US was a country and there is no question current Iranian leadership wants to establish their influence in the wider region. They could be ISIS x 100 if that happens. One guy as trying to make that a reality until the US stood up.Originally posted by Zephyr View PostI've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.
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Maybe you miss understood my post. The impression that I have is Canada, Britain or France wouldn't suggest the plane was shot down unless they were pretty much certain that it was. Whereas chuck was casting doubt. This is one time I will side with the Canadian government. Although I am not sure what their response will be.Originally posted by Zephyr View PostSpoken like a true ignorant a*****le westerner.
And you wonder why people look down on us as a society.
I've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.
I said this because, I, like you agree that the country is one of the most progressive countries in the region with an incredibly horrible government in control.Last edited by LEP; Jan 11, 2020, 08:43.
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Originally posted by LEP View PostMaybe you miss understood my post. The impression that I have is Canada, Britain or France wouldn't suggest the plane was shot down unless they were pretty much certain that it was. Whereas chuck was casting doubt. This is one time I will side with the Canadian government. Although I am not sure what their response will be.
I said this because, I like you, agree that the country is one of the most progressive countries in the region with an incredibly horrible government in control.
Shit. Sorry.
I quoted the wrong post. I was responding to this.
Agree with you.
Originally posted by jazz View PostIranian Canadians on that flight probably weren't the types to be sympathetic to the current regime since they already emigrated out of the country to the west. So they might have been expendable in the eyes of that govt. Maybe the message was for the west and its own minority population trying to demonize the west and set more people aflame. These guys rule by fear and intimidation and manipulation.
Who knows but it smells fishy all around.
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Maybe grammar isn't your strength. Reread the post before you get all sanctimonious.Originally posted by Zephyr View PostI quoted the wrong post. I was responding to this.
I said it may have been a way for the Iranian govt to manipulate Iran's own sunni minority population and any reformers in their midst trying to shift the blame back onto the Americans with a false flag attack.
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I agree, their regime is total evil, so they probably hate those that left/escaped their rules. The smartest/richest got the hell out. The missile taking down the plane is Either a horrendous mistake that makes them look like IDIOTS, or on purpose to look totally EVIL.Originally posted by jazz View PostIranian Canadians on that flight probably weren't the types to be sympathetic to the current regime since they already emigrated out of the country to the west. So they might have been expendable in the eyes of that govt. Maybe the message was for the west and its own minority population trying to demonize the west and set more people aflame. These guys rule by fear and intimidation and manipulation.
Who knows but it smells fishy all around.
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