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    #11
    Not likely that it was targeted on purpose. They will receive more bad than good from this. Just incompetence and stupidity of the Ukrainians for flying there.

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      #12
      The best long term sanction would be for every carrier in the world to stop flying into this shithole. If you want to be astonished, go to one of the flight tracker sites and see just how many airliners are still overflying Iran.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LEP View Post
        You have almost zero information to spout this opinion. If leaders like Trudeau even hint that it was a possibility, then it is almost a certainty that it was the Iranians. They wouldn't even discuss it otherwise.
        Spoken like a true ignorant a*****le westerner.


        And you wonder why people look down on us as a society.


        I've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.

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          #14
          Canada , Australia, Great Britain and the US all saying it was shot down .... not speculation

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            #15
            Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
            I've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.
            We certainly need to separate the people from the regime in all cases, however, the shia sunni divide has been going on long before the US was a country and there is no question current Iranian leadership wants to establish their influence in the wider region. They could be ISIS x 100 if that happens. One guy as trying to make that a reality until the US stood up.

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              #16
              Agreed, Iranians themselves are not bad people at all, many are highly educated and intelligent (like anywhere). But the regime is pure evil. That is the problem.
              Plane doesn’t make any sense, maybe we will learn why it was targeted, maybe not.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
                Spoken like a true ignorant a*****le westerner.


                And you wonder why people look down on us as a society.


                I've been to Iran. It is an incredibly progressive society, with an unfortunately regressive regime that is there, in large part, thanks to the Americans.
                Maybe you miss understood my post. The impression that I have is Canada, Britain or France wouldn't suggest the plane was shot down unless they were pretty much certain that it was. Whereas chuck was casting doubt. This is one time I will side with the Canadian government. Although I am not sure what their response will be.

                I said this because, I, like you agree that the country is one of the most progressive countries in the region with an incredibly horrible government in control.
                Last edited by LEP; Jan 11, 2020, 08:43.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LEP View Post
                  Maybe you miss understood my post. The impression that I have is Canada, Britain or France wouldn't suggest the plane was shot down unless they were pretty much certain that it was. Whereas chuck was casting doubt. This is one time I will side with the Canadian government. Although I am not sure what their response will be.

                  I said this because, I like you, agree that the country is one of the most progressive countries in the region with an incredibly horrible government in control.

                  Shit. Sorry.

                  I quoted the wrong post. I was responding to this.

                  Agree with you.


                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  Iranian Canadians on that flight probably weren't the types to be sympathetic to the current regime since they already emigrated out of the country to the west. So they might have been expendable in the eyes of that govt. Maybe the message was for the west and its own minority population trying to demonize the west and set more people aflame. These guys rule by fear and intimidation and manipulation.

                  Who knows but it smells fishy all around.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
                    I quoted the wrong post. I was responding to this.
                    Maybe grammar isn't your strength. Reread the post before you get all sanctimonious.

                    I said it may have been a way for the Iranian govt to manipulate Iran's own sunni minority population and any reformers in their midst trying to shift the blame back onto the Americans with a false flag attack.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Iranian Canadians on that flight probably weren't the types to be sympathetic to the current regime since they already emigrated out of the country to the west. So they might have been expendable in the eyes of that govt. Maybe the message was for the west and its own minority population trying to demonize the west and set more people aflame. These guys rule by fear and intimidation and manipulation.

                      Who knows but it smells fishy all around.
                      I agree, their regime is total evil, so they probably hate those that left/escaped their rules. The smartest/richest got the hell out. The missile taking down the plane is Either a horrendous mistake that makes them look like IDIOTS, or on purpose to look totally EVIL.

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