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    #16
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    Once again the loop handles the 134 drop...

    The government if they are so concerned with climate change ....why can't elevators be positioned to reduce trucking and make the railways actually help the effort...

    All the logistics and efficiency gains have went to shareholders while the same people talk about the environment. ...

    You guys realize the railways created the trucking industry by railway consolidation....then wonder why we have to rebuild highways and try to fix the environment. ...
    IF any levels of Government had brains to see the outcome, MOST wooden elevators would be still used. The road costs, trucking costs, $$millions spent on CONCRETE would all have been unnecessary, still be in our equity.
    Towns had people working in every elevator, tax base, all went to SHIT just for sake of CHANGE and SFA improvements in efficiency because RAIL is the bottleneck..

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      #17
      Originally posted by fjlip View Post
      IF any levels of Government had brains to see the outcome, MOST wooden elevators would be still used. The road costs, trucking costs, $$millions spent on CONCRETE would all have been unnecessary, still be in our equity.
      Towns had people working in every elevator, tax base, all went to SHIT just for sake of CHANGE and SFA improvements in efficiency because RAIL is the bottleneck..
      Yes. Along with hundreds of thousands of dollars in more bins in our yards and a year round job hauling it in.
      13 car spots less bottleneck than 134??
      < 24hr turnaround here and back westbound.
      Sorry, gotta call bs on entire post.
      Last edited by blackpowder; Dec 13, 2019, 13:50.

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        #18
        Fact is they only care about shareholders or how many more millions they put in owners pocket. Railways hold all small towns and business’ ransom. If u don’t do it exactly like they want they don’t have to service u. No different than producer car spots. Most are not looked after because it’s money they could put in the bosses pocket. Mean while we continually lose options and they don’t care. Our governments do nothing to legislate better service because it is not seen as overly important while more and more small towns die because of the railways take it or leave it attitude. Competition is the only thing that forces this to change.

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          #19
          I would hesitate to guess the family's Friday afternoon tea party is getting a little more somber as international competition within Canada is heating up. Saudis are loaded with cash, looking to diverify their econonomy and food supplies.

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            #20
            Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
            I would hesitate to guess the family's Friday afternoon tea party is getting a little more somber as international competition within Canada is heating up. Saudis are loaded with cash, looking to diverify their econonomy and food supplies.
            My guess is they have been welcomed with open arms. ....why else would you build in a saturated market unless they allowed you to....the families will be able to drop some dead weight....customers and staff...win win...


            If they were competitive they would build to gain market share for farmers not to have to drive an extra hour...

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              #21
              Handling system is expanding and that is good in most ways however it is expanding mostly by non Canadian companies who need to be watched that they are following our rules and work for the best interest of Canada and producers. They can break rules costing farmers money not only up front but in the long run that costs can be hidden and passed back to farmers.

              Things Like grade loss at port and dumurage it is important that farmers have a watch dog in place that will make them follow the rules of the law and enforce penalties when they over step boundaries.

              In the past it was the CGC but it has been undermined and seems to be powerless or at least not willing to do the job.

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                #22
                MBgrower

                "I would hesitate to guess the family's Friday afternoon tea party is getting a little more somber as international competition within Canada is heating up. Saudis are loaded with cash, looking to diverify their econonomy and food supplies. "

                I wouldn't worry about the families they have been in the business for over 100 years, and are expanding as well. P+H building at Dugald, Patterson new oat plant in Wpg, and the Richardson's business knowledge is second to none. Look how they out played the other handling companies during the elevator swaps several years ago.

                These families here in Manitoba know how to out last the best so don't ever count them out. In fact I'm glad they have their head offices in Wpg,.They do a hell of lot of good for Manitoba's diversified economy.

                If Ritz Cracker and Closet Boy had one ounce of business knowledge as the Families do,the CWB wouldn't have been given away to the Saudis for nothing.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
                  I would hesitate to guess the family's Friday afternoon tea party is getting a little more somber as international competition within Canada is heating up. Saudis are loaded with cash, looking to diverify their econonomy and food supplies.
                  The competition for our grain is amazingly good in central Alberta. When there is a decent crop volume... and blending capacity... the new concrete and loop track loaders are being forced to bid up our prices... if growers actually are willing to market their grain. Yes MARKET... when there is 7 different grain co's plus feeders scrambling to get our grain supplies... all within a hour of our farm... now that BNSF/CN/CP rail is competing effectively here as well [South/US as well westcoast Vancouver and Rupert]... the grain marketing options have radically expanded... MBgrower is bang on!
                  Last edited by TOM4CWB; Dec 14, 2019, 09:14.

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                    #24
                    Being closer to port has it advantages for sure Tom ....bit of a no brainer....but with loop tracks and new build why do they have to be build within a few minutes of the competition????

                    Why not make it so farmers don't have to drive so far and grab the outlier farmers instead of giving them choice after a hour drive....

                    Tried to explain this the other day...save me an hours drive and I will take a lower price....less fuel and tires and more loads ...value...some grainco's executive don't get it....

                    The sooner its on a train the better for graincos and farmers...

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                      #25
                      The sooner its on a train the better for graincos and farmers...
                      We all had that for 70 years, 2-5 mile hauls.

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