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    G3 building again...

    G3 is building an elevator in Swift Current where there is already 8 elevators market...they won't buy closed elevators to add competition...so they build to make farmers truck as far as the competition ...

    Why can't there be an oversight as to where these things get built... ...

    If the environment was included in these decision and trucking costs maybe farmers could get a shorter haul...
    Last edited by bucket; Dec 13, 2019, 08:19.

    #2
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    G3 is building an elevator in Swift Current where there is already 8 elevators market...they won't buy closed elevators to add competition...so they build to make farmers truck as far as the competition ...

    Why can't there be an oversight as to where these things get built... ...

    If the environment was included in these decision and trucking costs maybe farmers could get a shorter haul...
    As much as I hate to say this, there is probably alot of track in Western Canada that can't handle the 134 car trains.

    Railroad's decision to service some areas might be playing a part.

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      #3
      G3 has changed a lot of things in Western Canada. The looped track is at all elevators and even Viterra is doing it now.

      Some times you win some times you don't just like all the rest.

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        #4
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        As much as I hate to say this, there is probably alot of track in Western Canada that can't handle the 134 car trains.

        Railroad's decision to service some areas might be playing a part.
        Once again the loop handles the 134 drop...

        The government if they are so concerned with climate change ....why can't elevators be positioned to reduce trucking and make the railways actually help the effort...

        All the logistics and efficiency gains have went to shareholders while the same people talk about the environment. ...

        You guys realize the railways created the trucking industry by railway consolidation....then wonder why we have to rebuild highways and try to fix the environment. ...

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          #5
          or meet 35 super bees driving to tisdale 35 miles
          yea they don't give a **** , the environmentalists , otherwise there would not be another rail line abandonment, ask yourselves why the enviro mental people aren't fighting that ????????????????
          and that load of peat moss should of been on a train, not on a super bee

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            #6
            Bucket, just like all highways aren't built the same neither are railroads. Poor beds, neglected maintenance, light rail.

            The long trains servicing the only terminal way down the ljne are driven alot slower along the CN railroad beside us than the shorter ones were that dropped of cars every 8 to 16 miles.

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              #7
              Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
              Bucket, just like all highways aren't built the same neither are railroads. Poor beds, neglected maintenance, light rail.

              The long trains servicing the only terminal way down the ljne are driven alot slower along the CN railroad beside us than the shorter ones were that dropped of cars every 8 to 16 miles.

              Right but with consolidation the railways should have upgraded those lines....they didn't????and left the business to truckers and the bill goes to the department of highways....

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                #8
                If I remember correctly Paterson Long Plain was the first to implement the loop track system in western canada.

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                  #9
                  Nearest terminal to me. Had purchase options for at least 15 years before they bought the land and built. Knew something we didn't (cwb). Obviously where best for rail road I guess. Miles from a bigger town. Within 15 miles of 3 other, smaller terminals.
                  Pulls grain 200 kms. Loop track.

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                    #10
                    Ritz Cracker gave the CWB to the Saudis with all the assets that belong to Western Canadian Farmers.

                    Great start for G3 and now they expand with hopes of turning a profit down the road. Wonder which Winnipeg family will eventually own G3. More than likely all three will split the left overs.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                      Ritz Cracker gave the CWB to the Saudis with all the assets that belong to Western Canadian Farmers.

                      Great start for G3 and now they expand with hopes of turning a profit down the road. Wonder which Winnipeg family will eventually own G3. More than likely all three will split the left overs.
                      Was told yesterday they won't buy existing locations....they only build new....

                      Why Swift Current...there is Richardson , Paterson, Viterra, and a couple of others west ....

                      They only thing they can take for market share is a turn from the others....

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                        Ritz Cracker gave the CWB to the Saudis with all the assets that belong to Western Canadian Farmers.

                        Great start for G3 and now they expand with hopes of turning a profit down the road. Wonder which Winnipeg family will eventually own G3. More than likely all three will split the left overs.
                        Can't imagine farmers 49.9% share being worth much in a couple more years when Saudi's have option to buy them out, the way they have been spending unless there was a lot more money there then what was said there was when they destroyed the books.

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                          #13
                          Farmer's equity stake will be diluted down to next to nothing by the time they "get settled".

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by walterm View Post
                            Can't imagine farmers 49.9% share being worth much in a couple more years when Saudi's have option to buy them out, the way they have been spending unless there was a lot more money there then what was said there was when they destroyed the books.
                            Right out of the pages of the genesis ....SWP....agricore. ...to viterra. ..

                            They were never broke....just out right stole the equity....

                            Disclaimer....I didn't own SWP shares other than the one a guy had to buy....

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                              Farmer's equity stake will be diluted down to next to nothing by the time they "get settled".

                              Not against competition or more elevators but at what point do we get over built and elev Co's have to charge more to keep doors open and shareholders satisfied. Don't think they will pass on savings and competition to producers at the expense of shareholders.

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