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    #11
    Yea they subsidise our premium is the biggest joke out there. Chuck was a CWB supporter just let that sink in on how intelligent he is.

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      #12
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      But farmers get subsidized through these programs , chuck says so .
      THANKFULLY????????????? I've been paying premiums into AgStab for quite afew years knowing I don't stand much hope of ever collecting....... Am I being subsidized? I pay no Crop Insurance premiums because I am not forced into participating because of my debt structure..... Am I being subsidized?

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        #13
        I pulled out of Agri-Stability 3 years ago, it was my belief then and today that it was a waste of time and money.

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          #14
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          But farmers get subsidized through these programs , chuck says so .
          And there is no farm income crisis according to AlbertaFarmer5 so why are you all complaining?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
            I pulled out of Agri-Stability 3 years ago, it was my belief then and today that it was a waste of time and money.
            Good move ..because if they make any payments it won't be through agri stability....it will be a broad based ad hoc....

            They have let their incompetence go on so long the only solution is a per acre payment....cant fix it with tax breaks for farmers or any other solution ...the crisis is too far gone....big crop or not....grain prices have not kept pace with inputs and capital required....

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              #16
              Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
              And there is no farm income crisis according to AlbertaFarmer5 so why are you all complaining?
              I don't say that, the backwards looking data referenced in the NFU publication your prior thread linked says that.
              And when I pointed that out, instead of countering the data, you just disappeared from the thread you started, because it was inconvenient to acknowledge the falsehoods it was based on.

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                #17
                My comment today:
                Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                And there is no farm income crisis according to AlbertaFarmer5 so why are you all complaining?
                The reply:
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                I don't say that, the backwards looking data referenced in the NFU publication your prior thread linked says that.
                And when I pointed that out, instead of countering the data, you just disappeared from the thread you started, because it was inconvenient to acknowledge the falsehoods it was based on.
                A quote from the previous thread:
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                Grassfarmer, to be fair, just because I don't agree that farm income is in a crisis....
                you also said:
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                Until land prices drop to zero, and land goes unrented, there is no income crisis in agriculture.
                You said it clear as day. No farm income crisis. Based on your misunderstanding of Darrin's graphic and data as well as current happenings in agriculture. I "disappeared" from the thread because although you can take a horse to water you can't make it drink, especially one that's been beaten to death. We can agree to disagree but don't claim you didn't say there is no farm income crisis.

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                  #18
                  No, I analyzed the original data, and interpreted it for you. Not an opinion when it is backed up with the data.

                  Which doesn't change the fact that we both agree there is room for improvement, but you didn't respond to my last post to you discussing potential solutions to make farms more profitable. Even Chuck agreed with most of it.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    No, I analyzed the original data, and interpreted it for you. Not an opinion when it is backed up with the data.
                    Bullshit.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      Bullshit.
                      I posted the links to the statscan data that Darrin used to create his graph. I don't expect you to take my word for it, did you follow them and check it for yourself?

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