Seed Tax

[Goodtime]

I am a simple man so maybe someone can explain how a seed tax can help the farmer retain and grow demand for our cereals on a global level....is it kind of like how the carbon tax I am paying will help the environment?

[foragefarmer]

That answer should come from Mr Seed Tax himself Tom4$$$$4Tom.

He comes on Agriville with a rant every time he is in a battle. CSGA dissolving, R.M battle with poles and of coarse the CNR diet strike!

Tom was promoting the Seed Tax a few months ago, he give us all the benefit us farmers will be enjoying when it gets started.

[Oliver88]

Canterra really wants farmers to pay a seed tax.

Who will be buying Canterra seed this year?

[sawfly1]

You guys know, as anxious as you are
Get rid of Trudeau.

That a conservative majority will
Implement whatever the seed co.s
Want as soon as they get in.

Not that liberals on their own
Would be a a hell of a lot better.
Maybe they would listen now, maybe.

You know it is coming, one way or another.

But in a minority govt.with the
Ndp and the Bloc and the liberals
( COUGH COUGH )
We could maybe get some protections written in .
Like being able to access off patent seeds.
And ability to own seeds,
Not just lease the use of them.

I am sure you can make that case to the NDP and bloc.
(They are already there I think)

That it might not be a good idea
To give control and ownership
Of every seed on the planet to
To 3 corporations.

At that point , the conservatives are , Trapped.
How bad would it look to argue
To scrap our protections.

[biglentil]

This is what he really means, "Just think what turning farmers into slaves will do for our bottom line." It is critical that farmers retain the right to own the grain they grow and save seed.

[bucket]

from the western producer front page story......A 93 percent or near doubling in seed prices

[bucket]

Saskpulse could also quit using our checkoff dollars to develop private label varieties for certain processors....at the very least charge them development costs plus a profit....

[SASKFARMER]

Any party or group who supports a ****ing seed tax should be ran out of the country. It’s corporate welfare. God wake up people.

[MBgrower]

Any party or group who supports a ****ing seed tax should be ran out of the country. It’s corporate welfare. God wake up people.

Here is the Conservative's Agricultural policy. They support a seed tax, but not the carbon tax. whats the difference?


https://wheatgrowers.ca/advocacy-resources/carbon-tax/ https://wheatgrowers.ca/advocacy-resources/carbon-tax/

https://wheatgrowers.ca/advocacy-resources/seed-value-creation/ https://wheatgrowers.ca/advocacy-resources/seed-value-creation/

[mustardman]

Any party or group who supports a ****ing seed tax should be ran out of the country. It’s corporate welfare. God wake up people.

Uh Ok ... So that means the party of big business has to Leave the country? The CONservatives ??
It was their policy under the Ritz cracker that pushed this thru afterall

[bucket]

is there any public meetings about this???

Seems this has been put on the back burner or else its a done deal.....

[Guest]

Surely to **** they cant be stupid enough and arrogant enough to think they can still pull this off ???
Farm net income dropped 41.%
Where do the dumb bastards think it will come from?
And who in the **** needs more wheat?
Certainly not the system or CN or CP ?

[LEP]

You guys know, as anxious as you are
Get rid of Trudeau.

That a conservative majority will
Implement whatever the seed co.s
Want as soon as they get in.

Not that liberals on their own
Would be a a hell of a lot better.
Maybe they would listen now, maybe.

You know it is coming, one way or another.

But in a minority govt.with the
Ndp and the Bloc and the liberals
( COUGH COUGH )
We could maybe get some protections written in .
Like being able to access off patent seeds.
And ability to own seeds,
Not just lease the use of them.

I am sure you can make that case to the NDP and bloc.
(They are already there I think)

That it might not be a good idea
To give control and ownership
Of every seed on the planet to
To 3 corporations.

At that point , the conservatives are , Trapped.
How bad would it look to argue
To scrap our protections.

Ok Sawfly let’s see what the liberals do about this. I am a bit from Missouri on this as the ag minister went into hiding 4 years ago. But we can only hope you are right.

[Spyguy]

Seed tax

When will the industry realize the people who pay for this are the only voices that should be heard. Seed companies and breeding institutions have zero say in the process. Farm income dropped 41 percent last year. Stop trying to ram this down our throats.
They wonder why we don’t care Syngenta had no support. There marketing plan was no good to start with. Trying to railroad producers into no keeping there own seed.
The industry is in for a wake up call. They wonder why we don’t trust them. Should be simple to see what happened to our canola seed prices. You would have to be blind not to see the red flags up as they are trying to do the same thing with all crops. We can’t let that happen. Need to keep the control in the producers hand and not the people who line there own pockets. If you are not a producer keep your mouth shut!

[helmsdale]

Again... What will kind of a return does seed research bring back to the farm gate?

With depressed prices, is increased yield potential without SIGNIFICANTLY more efficient use of nutrients and water a winning strategy? And even if they manage to come up with a magic seed that can grow 50bu/ac on 100lb of 34-17 and 2" of growing season rains, what ability will we have to keep that in Canada for OUR benefit? All the sudden near barren african savanah can grow top quality, high bushel wheat... What happens to prices?

With no REAL demand for QUALITY, lets say they can develop the perfect non-weathering variety that produces 300+ falling numbers with little visual characteristic decay, and 14% protein after inches upon inches of rain? Again, what market would be looking to supply, and if we found a niche, what ability would Canadian farmers have to keep that trait strictly for Canadian users to supply said niche?

Unless Canadian farmers can hold the rights to said seed traits, why the hell are we being asked to underwrite the research?

Seed growers, research companies etc, should learn the time honored tradition of living within ones means! It's supply and demand! If the market isn't phucking asking for it, whey the hell are they spending the money trying to develop it? If all they're doing is "tinkering around the edges", and producing varieties that have 0.1% higher protein, or 2g/hl higher test weight, or 3% higher than check yield rates, it's no wonder the market could care less about seeding brand new certified genetics every single year!