Choose Forward

[Oliver88]

Don't forget, the most important word now in the English language is 'inclusive'.
I just know all the ethnically diverse, frozen Earth muffins, after making sure everyone else is apologized to, and paid off, will get to share all the oil wealth that will be developed in Asia in the next generation.
Monkey see, monkey do right?
So glad to lead the way.

Too bad productivity, paying significant taxes and wealth creation wasn’t “inclusive”.

[Hamloc]

Hamloc you know it's going to be a long wait for someone to admit to supporting Trudeau and the Liberals given that SF3 is the only self confessed voter on here and he appears to have switched sides for the time being.
Leaving partisan politics aside you ask a fair question though and I think it deserves an answer. I would state categorically that neither the current Liberal, or former Conservative Government made a positive contribution to my farming operation - but by the same token neither made any measurable negative contribution. I'm fine with that - I don't want the Government to be helping me, I want them to leave me alone. The main factors that affect me running a profitable business are weather, drought, feed prices, cattle prices none of which have been affected by Federal Government decisions of either party.

Longer term Government policies that have set the stage for the farm business environment we operate in and do cost me money - the drive for export dependance, turning a blind eye to corporate concentration, Federal regulations around slaughter plants, development of seed royalties etc appear to be supported equally whether its a Conservative or Liberal Government.

I'd say Provincial Governments have had more direct and indirect affect on my operation over the years. The Federal Government of whichever stripe really hasn't affected me.

Grassfarmer I remember back in the early eighties in Alberta many slaughter plants existed and many of them Canadian owned. More than one cattle buyer would come to bid on cattle at my families feedlot. Today there are only 2 and foreign owned. I have to be honest I don't know what caused so many to shut down. I suspect it was a combination of government regulation, union wage demands and competition. In the grain business not really much different, in the eighties there was more companies manufacturing fertilizer, more independant dealers, more competition. As far as machinery dealerships, there were many stand alone family owned dealerships. If you wanted to buy a new John Deere there were 5 dealerships all within 45 minutes, all in competition with each other. Now all those dealerships are owned by Cervus, no competition. Personally, my own experience is that governments would rather have 5 big businesses to regulate and oversee than 100 small ones. This is in my opinion a world wide phenomena, not exclusive to Canada and to some extent a result of globalization. There are many different government ideologies around the world, not sure I see any of them being successfull in stopping the growth of multinational corporations. But look at Alberta again, since the election of Justin Trudeau there has been an exodus of foreign oil companies something I am sure you are pleased with but all this does is reduce competition and employment, not positive in the long term. After all is said and done I would certainly agree that governments are not a positive influence to my business but you and I would disagree on where they have failed. Enjoy your day.

[dmlfarmer]

Grassfarmer I remember back in the early eighties in Alberta many slaughter plants existed and many of them Canadian owned. More than one cattle buyer would come to bid on cattle at my families feedlot. Today there are only 2 and foreign owned. I have to be honest I don't know what caused so many to shut down. I suspect it was a combination of government regulation, union wage demands and competition. In the grain business not really much different, in the eighties there was more companies manufacturing fertilizer, more independant dealers, more competition. As far as machinery dealerships, there were many stand alone family owned dealerships. If you wanted to buy a new John Deere there were 5 dealerships all within 45 minutes, all in competition with each other. Now all those dealerships are owned by Cervus, no competition. Personally, my own experience is that governments would rather have 5 big businesses to regulate and oversee than 100 small ones. This is in my opinion a world wide phenomena, not exclusive to Canada and to some extent a result of globalization. There are many different government ideologies around the world, not sure I see any of them being successfull in stopping the growth of multinational corporations. But look at Alberta again, since the election of Justin Trudeau there has been an exodus of foreign oil companies something I am sure you are pleased with but all this does is reduce competition and employment, not positive in the long term. After all is said and done I would certainly agree that governments are not a positive influence to my business but you and I would disagree on where they have failed. Enjoy your day.

I had no idea you were a socialist Hamlock. You must be because what you are complaining about is the result of capitalism, not government. 100 years ago there was a farm on every quarter section. But because of COMPETITION, ECONOMIES of scale, ABILITY to sell out and invest in new ventures, and Availability of credit, farmers left the land and remaining farmers have gotten bigger, just like has happened in every other industry.

How many rural schools, hospitals, theatres, curling rinks and even towns themselves have disappeared because rural population has dropped to the point a local center was no longer viable because of the shrinking farm population. It is easy to point fingers and complain about what is happening in other industries yet the same thing is happening at the farm gate, but you ignore that and blame governments for your woes when in fact most of problems are self induced.

And when companies get so big there are no longer Canadians willing to risk purchase, it opens the door wide for foreign ownership. After all, shareholders demand growth. It is a lack of government regulation (or at least lack of enforcement) that has allowed consolidation of industry to the point of no competition - not because of government encouraging it.

[SASKFARMER]

Yea Choose Forward. How about fast forward to October so we can quit pissing away billions with this idiot.

[blackjack]

And business incouraged the unions ...yep... and government had no control of the narrative of the work force...yep ... sarcasm

[bucket]

" Choose Forward " to what?????

Higher climate taxes and paying other countries bills with borrowed money...

This using the Canadian credit card by Trudeau has to stop...

[furrowtickler]

" Choose Forward " to what?????

Higher climate taxes and paying other countries bills with borrowed money...

This using the Canadian credit card by Trudeau has to stop...

[chuckChuck]

For those of you who don't like Trudeau and his policies (and I have never voted Liberal), what is that Andrew Scheer will do that is significantly different? Not much. He has a plan to cut greenhouse gases, supports equalization, does not want to reopen thorny social issues, and is in favour of big agri-business, etc.

There is a tendency from the hyper partisans to blame everything on politicians when much of what is wrong with agriculture or the resource sector or the economy has more to do with the cyclical nature of commodity prices and the exploitation by the business sector.

Every oil producing region in the world has seen a significant downturn. Farmers are struggling in many countries.

Was Harper responsible for the unsustainable growth in China and the world that drove commodity prices very high? Nope.

The oil sands are going to become a stranded asset, as electrification of transportation takes over in the next decades. The writing is on the wall. Every major car company is delivering electric cars. Some are betting on hydrogen fuel cells.

The oil sands are uneconomic at current prices. Prices may go up and down but the trend towards electric and other forms of energy will eventually change demand for ever.

[beaverdam]

" Forward " is socialist/communist mantra. It was reveled so, at the time Obama and the Democrat Party chose to use it in 2012.

More here; https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/obamas-new-slogan-forward-reveals-his-inner-socialist/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/obamas-new-slogan-forward-reveals-his-inner-socialist/

Now Trudeau and the LPC want to embrace it, likely at the advice of the U.S. Democrat advisors/consultants the LPC has hired to work with Butts.

Stifling free speech and controlling language in society is how these people gain and maintain power,,, with the help of media. It's called Totalitarianism

That's why now you can no longer say certain things, without you, yourself being destroyed.

Most recently you can't speak against, "mass immigration into Canada"

[jazz]

Of the $100B in debt skippy racked up, approx. half was sent off into foreign black holes of corruption or bogus UN scams or virtue signalling pet projects.

Basically this is a plan to siphon off half the wests wealth for Quebec and the other for the UN. This is beyond corrupt. Its fascist.