Choose Forward

[jazz]

That's skippys new slogan. Catchy right.

I will just leave this little tid bit here. From the last day of house of commons seating Jun 25th up until today, skippy and his cabal have committed $9B in new spending commitments and not a single job created from it. None of that was in Ab and Sk. More than half into Quebec alone.

You are living is a new dictatorship. Welcome.

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Correction; I got that number wrong. My apologies to skippy. The actual number is $25B. $9B in just the past 2 weeks.

[Hamloc]

That's skippys new slogan. Catchy right.

I will just leave this little tid bit here. From the last day of house of commons seating Jun 25th up until today, skippy and his cabal have committed $9B in new spending commitments and not a single job created from it. None of that was in Ab and Sk. More than half into Quebec alone.

You are living is a new dictatorship. Welcome.

I am very interested to hear from those who appear to some extent to support Justin Trudeau and his policies to list how they feel the Liberal's have moved us forward in the last 4 years? Does anybody feel that Liberal policies have made a positive contribution to their farming operation?

[Radical]

He’s Trudeau’s best friend and scandal-ridden former chief advisor.

Butts has seemingly been at the heart of every Trudeau screw-up — in fact, he resigned over the SNC-Lavalin affair!

But Butts also has a long history of spouting anti-oil rhetoric, dating back to his days as former Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty’s right-hand man.

Described as the architect of the Ontario Green Energy Act, Butts openly bad-mouths the “tar sands”, to use his foul term for our beautiful oil patch.

And despite the fact that he’s also a part of the Liberal Party election campaign team, he is now being paid to do just that by our own federal government!

Butts’ new employers, the New York-based Eurasia Group, have been awarded a $150,000 (USD) sole-source contract from Natural Resources Canada to give advice on energy markets.

And I uncovered the EXCLUSIVE documents to prove it!

Here, check out my full exposé of this egregious display of cronyism — you won’t see this story anywhere in the mainstream media.



The oil patch is being pummelled by leftie governments and Canadian veterans are asking “for more than we’re able to give”, yet the Liberals have still found a way to give their friend a cool $150,000 (USD)!

The Libranos are well and truly back, with a new generation of corruption under Trudeau, don’t you think?

[SASKFARMER]

Choose Forward.

So he is the Female. His buddy Butts is the Male. Trudeau bends over and faces Forward.

It's a perfect slogan for the cute couple.

Sick Corrupt liberals.

The Gay parade thing has had its 15 min or 30 days. We were all over it. Choose forward and leave the building.

The oil patch has been destroyed by Trudeau and company I guess the guys who use to work, look forward to there unemployment checks that will end soon.

FArmers got screwed by the liberals and then to add insult to injury they gave a couple billion to the Dairy farmers who had no hurt from the trade dispute. Trudeau cost us billions because of his screw-ups with China and India and all other trade partners.

We were looking forward to the day the Liberal party is wiped off the face of the Earth.

[jazz]

Unfortunately we sit on the cusp of a minority and while that might help keep skippy in check, that does little to repeal carbon taxes and the anti alberta bills. Only a CPC majortity can do that and that doesnt seem in the cards. There is no convincing some areas of the country. I guess if we got $25B funded by Quebec we would be happy too.



The only advice appropriate at this time is to start to protect yourself and your finances.

Or hope Kenny has a plan or sell some land and buy a US green card because Canada is about to be done.

[Jay-mo]

[blackpowder]

Don't forget, the most important word now in the English language is 'inclusive'.
I just know all the ethnically diverse, frozen Earth muffins, after making sure everyone else is apologized to, and paid off, will get to share all the oil wealth that will be developed in Asia in the next generation.
Monkey see, monkey do right?
So glad to lead the way.

[grassfarmer]

I am very interested to hear from those who appear to some extent to support Justin Trudeau and his policies to list how they feel the Liberal's have moved us forward in the last 4 years? Does anybody feel that Liberal policies have made a positive contribution to their farming operation?

Hamloc you know it's going to be a long wait for someone to admit to supporting Trudeau and the Liberals given that SF3 is the only self confessed voter on here and he appears to have switched sides for the time being.
Leaving partisan politics aside you ask a fair question though and I think it deserves an answer. I would state categorically that neither the current Liberal, or former Conservative Government made a positive contribution to my farming operation - but by the same token neither made any measurable negative contribution. I'm fine with that - I don't want the Government to be helping me, I want them to leave me alone. The main factors that affect me running a profitable business are weather, drought, feed prices, cattle prices none of which have been affected by Federal Government decisions of either party.

Longer term Government policies that have set the stage for the farm business environment we operate in and do cost me money - the drive for export dependance, turning a blind eye to corporate concentration, Federal regulations around slaughter plants, development of seed royalties etc appear to be supported equally whether its a Conservative or Liberal Government.

I'd say Provincial Governments have had more direct and indirect affect on my operation over the years. The Federal Government of whichever stripe really hasn't affected me.

[jazz]

How about just having an competent adult in charge. lets start there.

And soverign generational debt isn't a concern for your family? It shows up one way or another. With $100B debt racked up, that isnt expected to be paid down until 2040. Now with another $25B committed, that means more likely 2050. Or mostly likely never. Just like Ontario.

When Canada tackled a big debt 25 yrs ago, our nation was younger and less dependent and we rode a nice little boom out of it. Those things aren't in the cards this time.

[furrowtickler]

Peter Pan was put in power to set up Quebec for many years to come and to drain the wealth from western Canada
Butts cheerleading the oil demise and Ralph screwing over western Canadian farmers. It’s so blatantly obvious.
I knew this was going to happen the moment that village idiot got in Ottawa

[Oliver88]

Don't forget, the most important word now in the English language is 'inclusive'.
I just know all the ethnically diverse, frozen Earth muffins, after making sure everyone else is apologized to, and paid off, will get to share all the oil wealth that will be developed in Asia in the next generation.
Monkey see, monkey do right?
So glad to lead the way.

Too bad productivity, paying significant taxes and wealth creation wasn’t “inclusive”.

[Hamloc]

Hamloc you know it's going to be a long wait for someone to admit to supporting Trudeau and the Liberals given that SF3 is the only self confessed voter on here and he appears to have switched sides for the time being.
Leaving partisan politics aside you ask a fair question though and I think it deserves an answer. I would state categorically that neither the current Liberal, or former Conservative Government made a positive contribution to my farming operation - but by the same token neither made any measurable negative contribution. I'm fine with that - I don't want the Government to be helping me, I want them to leave me alone. The main factors that affect me running a profitable business are weather, drought, feed prices, cattle prices none of which have been affected by Federal Government decisions of either party.

Longer term Government policies that have set the stage for the farm business environment we operate in and do cost me money - the drive for export dependance, turning a blind eye to corporate concentration, Federal regulations around slaughter plants, development of seed royalties etc appear to be supported equally whether its a Conservative or Liberal Government.

I'd say Provincial Governments have had more direct and indirect affect on my operation over the years. The Federal Government of whichever stripe really hasn't affected me.

Grassfarmer I remember back in the early eighties in Alberta many slaughter plants existed and many of them Canadian owned. More than one cattle buyer would come to bid on cattle at my families feedlot. Today there are only 2 and foreign owned. I have to be honest I don't know what caused so many to shut down. I suspect it was a combination of government regulation, union wage demands and competition. In the grain business not really much different, in the eighties there was more companies manufacturing fertilizer, more independant dealers, more competition. As far as machinery dealerships, there were many stand alone family owned dealerships. If you wanted to buy a new John Deere there were 5 dealerships all within 45 minutes, all in competition with each other. Now all those dealerships are owned by Cervus, no competition. Personally, my own experience is that governments would rather have 5 big businesses to regulate and oversee than 100 small ones. This is in my opinion a world wide phenomena, not exclusive to Canada and to some extent a result of globalization. There are many different government ideologies around the world, not sure I see any of them being successfull in stopping the growth of multinational corporations. But look at Alberta again, since the election of Justin Trudeau there has been an exodus of foreign oil companies something I am sure you are pleased with but all this does is reduce competition and employment, not positive in the long term. After all is said and done I would certainly agree that governments are not a positive influence to my business but you and I would disagree on where they have failed. Enjoy your day.

[dmlfarmer]

Grassfarmer I remember back in the early eighties in Alberta many slaughter plants existed and many of them Canadian owned. More than one cattle buyer would come to bid on cattle at my families feedlot. Today there are only 2 and foreign owned. I have to be honest I don't know what caused so many to shut down. I suspect it was a combination of government regulation, union wage demands and competition. In the grain business not really much different, in the eighties there was more companies manufacturing fertilizer, more independant dealers, more competition. As far as machinery dealerships, there were many stand alone family owned dealerships. If you wanted to buy a new John Deere there were 5 dealerships all within 45 minutes, all in competition with each other. Now all those dealerships are owned by Cervus, no competition. Personally, my own experience is that governments would rather have 5 big businesses to regulate and oversee than 100 small ones. This is in my opinion a world wide phenomena, not exclusive to Canada and to some extent a result of globalization. There are many different government ideologies around the world, not sure I see any of them being successfull in stopping the growth of multinational corporations. But look at Alberta again, since the election of Justin Trudeau there has been an exodus of foreign oil companies something I am sure you are pleased with but all this does is reduce competition and employment, not positive in the long term. After all is said and done I would certainly agree that governments are not a positive influence to my business but you and I would disagree on where they have failed. Enjoy your day.

I had no idea you were a socialist Hamlock. You must be because what you are complaining about is the result of capitalism, not government. 100 years ago there was a farm on every quarter section. But because of COMPETITION, ECONOMIES of scale, ABILITY to sell out and invest in new ventures, and Availability of credit, farmers left the land and remaining farmers have gotten bigger, just like has happened in every other industry.

How many rural schools, hospitals, theatres, curling rinks and even towns themselves have disappeared because rural population has dropped to the point a local center was no longer viable because of the shrinking farm population. It is easy to point fingers and complain about what is happening in other industries yet the same thing is happening at the farm gate, but you ignore that and blame governments for your woes when in fact most of problems are self induced.

And when companies get so big there are no longer Canadians willing to risk purchase, it opens the door wide for foreign ownership. After all, shareholders demand growth. It is a lack of government regulation (or at least lack of enforcement) that has allowed consolidation of industry to the point of no competition - not because of government encouraging it.

[SASKFARMER]

Yea Choose Forward. How about fast forward to October so we can quit pissing away billions with this idiot.

[blackjack]

And business incouraged the unions ...yep... and government had no control of the narrative of the work force...yep ... sarcasm