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    #16
    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    My thoughts too. Large profits to be had with wheat on wheat. Don’t understand why guys have to grow a bunch of canola sheesh! Even better continuous oats or barley.
    Have you ever tried flax on flax on flax on flax and on and on....very good for the land.

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      #17
      Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
      Have you ever tried flax on flax on flax on flax and on and on....very good for the land.
      I could imagine it would be wonderful for your land. Help firm up those boggy spots.

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        #18
        Originally posted by wiseguy
        Canola on canola looks better than the canola on wheat stubble !
        Yup, same here, wheat stubble lumpy seed bed, trashy, poorer germ, COLDER in spring. NE grain belt best at 100% club root/blackleg/sclerotinia/fleabeetle resistant canola... oh ya, NO weathering from RAIN, dries quicker after, No geese or deer eating/shitting on it.

        Have a lot in common with you lesmt...at 66

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          #19
          Originally posted by lesmt View Post
          Been very successful in growing a wheat/canola rotation for the last 30 years but tired of growing wheat which requires over 50% of my time and almost as much financial contribution with only 35-40% of net income. Been toying with the idea of growing only canola on a canola/summerfallow rotation but was wondering if this rotation would have any negative effects to the one I was previously following. My reasoning is that my canola would be seeded in a more timely fashion and I could tweak my production skills to achieve a 15-20% increase in yield, less wear and tear on machinery, and make my life a bit easier. I'm 68 years old, don't need the cash but would like to keep farming as long as I'm healthy physically and mentally. Rented out 40% of my land base so downsized enough that the present machinery is more than enough to what is presently does. Labour availability is by far my biggest issue and that's why I'm considering this option. Any thoughts good or bad?
          You could consider renting it out during the non-canola years. Or someone could custom farm it for you.

          In our area when pulses were starting to take off, there were farmers that still farmed 50/50 that rented out their cereal stubble to guys to seed pulses on. They either didn’t have the equipment or desire to, but wanted the benefits. Win win for both parties.

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            #20
            Canola is king, forget about everything;
            They been running soy/corn tight for years;
            Should be taking notes instead of drinking beers;
            Summerfallow is hard to swallow;
            Plant Canola corner to corner;
            Be a BTO and winter in Arizonerrrr!

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              #21
              Ah I love this topic. Have tried a few times yield the first year of Canola Canola is lower for some reason then stays about the same.

              But we only do to square up fields etc.

              Rental agreements we are seeing to the north of us have a built-in No Canola on Canola. The reason is the landowner can't find someone to take it over when the BTO is done.

              Lots in NE do 1/3 Cereals and 2/3 Canola.

              Viagra Capital like it that way.

              Clubroot problems are guess were in areas of Canola on Canola wonder why.

              Let's kill the one crop that makes us money.

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                #22
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
                Ah I love this topic. Have tried a few times yield the first year of Canola Canola is lower for some reason then stays about the same.

                But we only do to square up fields etc.

                Rental agreements we are seeing to the north of us have a built-in No Canola on Canola. The reason is the landowner can't find someone to take it over when the BTO is done.

                Lots in NE do 1/3 Cereals and 2/3 Canola.

                Viagra Capital like it that way.

                Clubroot problems are guess were in areas of Canola on Canola wonder why.

                Let's kill the one crop that makes us money.
                Just like what’s happened to the lentil market.

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                  #23
                  Markets cycle. The high prices for lentils encouraged every BTO in 2016 to plant 5.3 million acres in Sask. Round-Up and Liberty Link made it a cakewalk. And voila, here we are at the downside of the cycle. Now’s Canola’s turn. Just MHO. Follow the money.

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                    #24
                    What would fix the canola..canola rotation?
                    8 dollar wheat and 8 dollar malt bly..

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Partners View Post
                      What would fix the canola..canola rotation?
                      8 dollar wheat and 8 dollar malt bly..
                      Clubroot just need to ask someone who has it what they would do differently.

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                        #26
                        Proper rotations will kill the prices of all other grains, while canola is higher, never get to that magic goal of production, because illegal to plant it? Therefore we lose markets as unreliable supplier....just all goes to hell!

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                          #27
                          Seriously, is clubroot the result of to tight rotation of canola? Does clubroot come from canola on canola? I really would like an expert to comment.

                          I thought clubroot was like a virus that is spread with contact of the virus....ie: unclean equipment, nh3 trucks being infected and spreading it, bio fert mixed in with infected soil transported to other farms, etc.

                          I go every 3rd year...always average 40 plus real world average over all acres...never can average the 50 plus coffee shop number...but happy with what I get. We give it lots of groceries too.

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                            #28
                            Would also like comment on soil ph relationship. Have heard liming soils is beneficial in controlling club root and wonder about soils with natural high ph.

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                              #29
                              $100/ac rents and $400,000 per 1/4 along with new machinery prices give the illusion that canola on canola is the only option. Even combining it at 14 plus moisture with little regard to drying charges don’t matter ..... giver ...... sunny days ahead “your budget will balance itself” lol . Disease is an after thought.
                              What Can happen is an absolute train wreck , but a look in the mirror says all who is to blame .
                              No it’s not nesessarly tight canola rotations but it’s like pea root rot , it’s the frequency that enhances the issue.
                              The problem is guys that farm all over hells half acre that transport this kinda thing everywhere. That and the oil and gas industry.
                              Had a gas line go through here this summer, never stopped between fields with one single piece of of equipment to clean or *** all , so who or what is to blame on the spread of clubroot..... everyday it moves somehow , it’s wether or not there is more activity from soil transport from area to area and frequency of the host .
                              Never one single issue to blame

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                                #30
                                No farm is an island.....
                                Phytosanitary production?
                                It would be pretty hard to prevent the spread of certain pathogens. Wind and water and wildlife can all be carriers, therefore it's only a matter of time. Especially if the three sides of the disease triangle(I don't believe this is an Industry tool to sell more product) are all present at the same time.

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