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    #31
    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Little compensation?????? Your kidding right ??
    We pay very dearly for those social programs and health care through tax’s for both our families and “many others “
    Who don’t contribute through tax’s .
    No compensation... lol
    Start adding up the value of all the land transferred and resources that have been extracted from the land that was originally first nations land and you will see that first nations received very little in exchange.

    We created the system of reserves and dependency and have miserably failed in making sure first nations are successful and self sufficient.
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 23, 2018, 08:37.

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      #32
      I never go to the coffee shop .
      I find my own info .
      “Experts” only tell the story they get paid to portray.

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        #33
        But facts don't really matter any more! LOL[/QUOTE]



        Ain’t that the truth! Today CNN is crying that the world is running out of sand. Good grief, if the lefties ever figure out the fact media is preying on them. The rest of us just laugh it off, then another faction takes it all as gospel. What will it be tomorrow?

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          #34
          So CBC running false facts on this ... could be . Just sharing info , not saying it’s 100% fact . Chuck you jump up and down like a school girl brat when someone challenges anything you say lol
          It’s actually quite funny .
          As far as compensation, add up all that , but at the time those treaties were signed ... not today . They have had every opportunity as we have had since . It’s a matter of will .

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            #35
            It is quite apparent that the hard core socialists (even on Agriville) don’t believe in laws, justice system, borders, personal responsibility, everyone pitching in to do their part.

            If these people increase in numbers, what will happen to our taxpayer base, tax rates, GDP?.....scary thought but it would likely crash and burn like Ontario under the Wynne reign of terror and taxation.

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              #36
              When my ancestors came in the 30's, had to pay for a quarter over time. It was 100% bush and sloughs just like the natives left it for what, 10,000 years. They ZERO assistance, worked for maybe a buck a day, plus cleared the land to get the minimum 5 acres done. A tiny poplar log house with bulrush roof. They came through proper legal channels, not ILLEGALLY walking across the border or jumping off a boat. NO welfare, NO medicare. I say send them back, apply, we will think about it. We have thousands that came legally, working, contributing, fitting in. A conversation with a Filipino, the dad said they went back to visit family but his kids now HATE the +40 heat in the Philippines, want to stay in COLD Canada.

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                #37
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                I never go to the coffee shop .
                I find my own info .
                “Experts” only tell the story they get paid to portray.
                Yes this is the anti-expert, anti-facts, anti-science, anti-evidence based decision making world we live in.

                Some people make up the facts and conspiracy theories and try to pass it off as credible arguments.

                If you go to highly politicized websites or sources you are not getting the facts you are getting biased opinion.

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                  #38
                  So CBC not stating facts ?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                    When my ancestors came in the 30's, had to pay for a quarter over time. It was 100% bush and sloughs just like the natives left it for what, 10,000 years. They ZERO assistance, worked for maybe a buck a day, plus cleared the land to get the minimum 5 acres done. A tiny poplar log house with bulrush roof. They came through proper legal channels, not ILLEGALLY walking across the border or jumping off a boat. NO welfare, NO medicare. I say send them back, apply, we will think about it. We have thousands that came legally, working, contributing, fitting in. A conversation with a Filipino, the dad said they went back to visit family but his kids now HATE the +40 heat in the Philippines, want to stay in COLD Canada.
                    Do you remember all the boat people who came to Canada from South Vietnam after the US lost the war in 1978 and 1979? They were all refugees escaping retribution from the Communist North.

                    Ever hear anything about them? Their kids and families are here running businesses and working hard to make a living and they pay taxes too.

                    What about all the refugees that came to Canada during and after the second world war? Many of them are our parents and grandparents.

                    Get rid of the safe third country agreement and refugees will come through regular border crossings just like most of all the previous generations of refugees and immigrants have done.

                    This is a country founded on refugees and immigrants. Only a very small number have come here illegally. And that can be fixed.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      So CBC not stating facts ?
                      Your post is a comment on a video done by the CBC. That is not the CBC. Have you seen the video?

                      There is not enough information to know much about what the video said about anything. Let alone present it as evidence or fact.

                      In order to know what refugees receive in each province you would need to get that from each government department in each province along with Federal government or directly from refugees.

                      The CTV article clearly shows that misinformation was being posted on social media.

                      In any case any amount of support or compassion shown to refugees would likely be opposed by those who are anti-immigrant.

                      If the issue is illegal crossings, that can be fixed.

                      But we will still have refugees and immigrants coming to this country and both the Conservatives and Liberals are fully supportive of helping legitimate refugees and immigrants.

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                        #41
                        Most are not anti immigrant at all , its the amount of people in general getting free tax payers money for nothing and not working for it . Also in some cases taking home more money than the average hardworking joe that has contributed many many years of tax’s and supporting this economy. That’s the issue . But you will just throw up the racist card or anti immigration card to suit your cause
                        Some people just can’t see the forest through the trees and refuse to look 👀

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                          #42
                          All I can say to you Chuck, and being very polite, is you pretty much talk through your hat.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Your post is a comment on a video done by the CBC. That is not the CBC. Have you seen the video?

                            There is not enough information to know much about what the video said about anything. Let alone present it as evidence or fact.

                            In order to know what refugees receive in each province you would need to get that from each government department in each province along with Federal government or directly from refugees.

                            The CTV article clearly shows that misinformation was being posted on social media.

                            In any case any amount of support or compassion shown to refugees would likely be opposed by those who are anti-immigrant.

                            If the issue is illegal crossings, that can be fixed.

                            But we will still have refugees and immigrants coming to this country and both the Conservatives and Liberals are fully supportive of helping legitimate refugees and immigrants.
                            Chucky here's some news for ya from an immigrant.


                            If you are poor, unskilled, and visibly not white... And you need to be all three... Canada welcomes you with open arms.

                            Otherwise the Canadian immigration system makes it next to impossible to enter. That's first and second hand experience.

                            My friend whose a grain merchant in Laos is having a heck of a time with immigration just like my family did. He's skilled smart and fairly well off.

                            3 years and counting to get permanent residency.

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                              #44
                              Not sure this will load:
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                Start adding up the value of all the land transferred and resources that have been extracted from the land that was originally first nations land and you will see that first nations received very little in exchange.

                                We created the system of reserves and dependency and have miserably failed in making sure first nations are successful and self sufficient.
                                those would be worthless assets if it were not for the immigrants that came here and turned them into value

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