Freeze up coming,

[chuckChuck]

So let it happen.
Plan for the change. Dont castrate your economy for the benefit of China. Legislating a change to the weather is folly.

An aquaintance was present at higher level AB govt meetings after C tax in. All present gleefully schemed how much of the expected $5B new income they could get. Fools and suckers. If i agree to your science will you agree to being a fool?

There is a good argument that not investing in low carbon technology will be bad for the economy as well. There are lots of jobs and investment happening in clean tech and renewables. We will still be producing and using oil and gas in the next decades even as we adopt more electric, hybrid and hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles and renewables. It will be a transition not an abrupt change.

We also have to calculate the economic costs of global warming and increasing sea levels. Droughts, floods, huge changes that have a bill attached. So there are economic implications if we do little.

Fools are those who are resistant to change when it is obvious that continuing along a path that is not sustainable, will lead to severe problems. The science is not negotiable.

[chuckChuck]

I see your point but you ignored the fact that we as farmers already invite a huge cost with def systems that dramatically reduce emissions. Also we can not reduce consumption much and will have to eat the full cost of the fairy tale tax with no way to pass it on .

Agriculture can be largely exempted from carbon taxes with good policy if that is required. But agricultural practices will have to be changed to reduce emissions as agriculture is still a large emitter.

[furrowtickler]

Fools are those who say the Greenland ice sheet will melt and sea levels will rise dramatically because of it causing the world untold death and destruction.

[sumdumguy]

Tax chucky and his science peers so they shut the hell up !

Tax those begging to be taxed !

Ain't that the truth. If only they would put their money where their mouth is!

[fjlip]

Agriculture can be largely exempted from carbon taxes with good policy if that is required. But agricultural practices will have to be changed to reduce emissions as agriculture is still a large emitter.

WRONG! we are massive sequesters that NO climate change nazi will admit.

[fjlip]

I see your point but you ignored the fact that we as farmers already invite a huge cost with def systems that dramatically reduce emissions. Also we can not reduce consumption much and will have to eat the full cost of the fairy tale tax with no way to pass it on .

Farmers have been forced by economics to slash all consumption over last 30 years... THAT should be recognized by society...

[seldomseen]

It has been snowing here all morning so the door on fall work is closing fast.

Arguing with Chucky is frustrating just like the weather.

I really want a warmer climate but doubt I will ever see one unless I move south.

[danny W1M]

Yup, little chance of building reserves for next, once the ground is froze.

In climate news, more and more scientists are becoming unafraid since the Democrats are out of power, and more of them are writing scientific papers about the myth of glow-ball warming.

[URL="http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/24/delingpole-now-400-scientific-papers-in-2017-say-global-warming-is-a-myth/"]http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/24/delingpole-now-400-scientific-papers-in-2017-say-global-warming-is-a-myth/[/URL]

[sumdumguy]

Ain't that the truth. If only they would put their money where their mouth is!

Chucky, you would be much more credible if you told us that you live off the grid, use wind and solar for your energy requirements, do you?

[macdon02]

http://notrickszone.com/2017/10/23/400-scientific-papers-published-in-2017-support-a-skeptical-position-on-climate-alarm/#sthash.XjjFDfS2.3zUdILhb.dpbs

[tweety]

Winter is coming.

[Guest]

Winter is coming.

yea , climate sure changed here this morning , white and wet , and cold , they were right , lol

[furrowtickler]

yea , climate sure changed here this morning , white and wet , and cold , they were right , lol

Yup and the Ice sheet in Greenland will still be there 10,000 years from now.
Maybe bigger maybe smaller but still there and a wild guess is that ocean levels wild not have risen 30-40 ft or what ever climate extremists are saying .

[fjlip]

yea , climate sure changed here this morning , white and wet , and cold , they were right , lol

You beat us, but snowing like hell now, 2" and counting....

[seldomseen]

Forecast was for 5-10 mm of rain but what we got is heavy snow all day and it looks really wet.
Hard to tell how much rain this will make.