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    #11
    One of the biggest risks - and might just be for something as stupid as mocking Trump. Scary and dangerous situation.

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      #12
      What the hell does it matter if he was in the army. Most politicians didn't serve. Bill Clinton sure as hell didn't neither did the Kenyan

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        #13
        It's lions vs lambs. When someone has the power to send people into danger without having experienced the danger firsthand, it's harder to fully appreciate the graveness of the situation. There really is no greater responsibility.

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          #14
          i can see some of the cuts he made,

          but the increase in military spending,
          what is going on in his head is a mystery.

          all of the above comments from posters apply.

          get ready for war, but what war?

          feed the industrial military complex . is that what made america great ?
          a great make work project. for some , but in the long run unless you have a use .

          this may be way out there, but if the USA decided not to pay it's bills.
          default who can call them on it.

          like what would or could china do.

          is it really that far out, knowing how trump operates

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            #15
            How many drones did Obama send out creating refugees? Bombs and drones create refugees, not budgets. We wouldn't have them scampering across the border if a foreign govt didn't cause it. Side note, Remington is finally laying off employees, the biggest gun run of all time. Faith in govt .....

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              #16
              Obama obviously wasn't of an age to serve when conscription was in place. Clinton was another draft dodger for sure.
              Trump however set himself apart by calling out John McCain as not being a war hero - because he was shot down over Vietnam and held captive for 6 years. Coming from Trump who used 5 deferments to keep himself from having to serve in that same conflict. People in the military notice that kind of thing - the Generals. It rankles.

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                #17
                Your passion to attack trump speaks volumes grassy. Who has he attacked? I know where Obama has launched drones.

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                  #18
                  My bil is getting paid to resettle Syrians by Obama. That's nice job creation ....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                    Obama obviously wasn't of an age to serve when conscription was in place. Clinton was another draft dodger for sure.
                    Trump however set himself apart by calling out John McCain as not being a war hero - because he was shot down over Vietnam and held captive for 6 years. Coming from Trump who used 5 deferments to keep himself from having to serve in that same conflict. People in the military notice that kind of thing - the Generals. It rankles.
                    McCain is not a war hero. Veterans know him as "Songbird", for good reason. Maybe you missed that memo. McCain even admitted that it was true, in his book about Vietnam.

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                      #20
                      How would you have held up under Vietnamese torture 15444 - or Donald Trump more to the point? He wasn't going to risk it - avoiding the draft 5 times. McCain flew over 20 missions before he was shot down, he was one of the highest ranking officers shot down hence was a bigger prize and bigger target for the VC in terms of having the best intelligence information. He was decorated 7 times for his Vietnam involvement - read the citations here to find out about his conduct: [URL="http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=23680"]http://http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=23680[/URL]

                      McCain was a POW, Trump is a POS for daring to challenge his military record given that he was hiding out for the duration of the war.

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