Surprise Alberta NDP

[perfecho]

And you don't think the debt would be there had the ND's not gotten in? If you recall, that is why Mr. Prentice called the election...to validate his deficit budget....although he didn't have to. But, IMHO, he knew it was going to get much worse and didn't want to wait the year, thought he could pull it off at the time and not when the economy was in the tank.

[Hamloc]

Grassfarmer I agree that 21/2 years is a long time in politics but let's analize a bit of what the NDP has done and how that worked out.
Right out of the box personal and corporate tax increases. Personally wasn't against them but hurt the business climate and ended up bringing in less revenue.
Then started the royalty review postponed decisions by oil companies. In the end nobody was really happy. Her base was unhappy royalties weren't raised and the NDP looked bad for complaining the PC's had given away resources but now had to say royalties were fair.
Then came bill 6, some aspects of it are good but was badly handled then and implementation meetings so far not going all that well.
Then the climate leadership plan, exactly what an energy producing province needs in an economic downturn, a carbon tax on its biggest revenue producer. Not going to help.
Then increasing the minimum wage, this will make business pop up everywhere, tried to buy small business off with a tax cut from 3 to 2%. Wage costs will far outweigh the savings from tax cut.

I think that the NDP had a golden opportunity to bring in a moderate government that could have ruled for 2 or 3 terms. The PC's definitely made a lot of mistakes but the NDP have all Albertan's yearning for past success, so far the NDP has made a mess of everything they have touched and they continue to push. If the economy is still stuck in neutral in 2019 they are done, plain and simple. And we will be left with a projected 58 billion dollar debt and a hell of a mess to clean up, very sad.

[ajl]

Actually neither Notely or JT won a majority of the vote. We are stuck with the damage both these clowns are going to cause and neither had a majority of the vote. JT is now happy with first past the post now that the Liberals are in power. Big surprise.

[blackpowder]

I will bet money that jt will be there at least once or twice more. Maybe not 3 in a row but 2.
Notley has a definite chance at a decent showing I'm afraid.

[nicolaas]

Notley will win again. She will not cut the government staff. She did inherit a wreck though, the conservatives could not balance the budget at 100 dollar oil. Most people understand that. She has not done anything out of the ordinary yet in my view. The carbon tax was coming if she put in in or not. There probably will be a sales tax soon as oil patch in dire straights,....though they would pay minimal royalties even at 100 dollar oil. I think would rather have a sales tax then raising income taxes, but who knows.

[mustardman]

Sask and Albeta are very similar on debt. We just have Brad who is a Better Storyteller. Lol

Albeta has 4 times the population and 4 times te debt

[grassfarmer]

Democracies only work when people are educated.


We are at the point where people will allow their civil liberties to be eroded in exchange for "free stuff" that others pay for.


The beginning of the end of modern society as we know it.


I must admit, grassfarmer, I find it funny... you moved from Alberta to MB and ended up under a conservative government again.... What are your views on Pallister? Seems like he's doing a good start of cleaning up a huge mess?

So are the people better educated in MB or in AB to have elected the respective Governments they did?
Can't say I've noticed any difference in Manitoba since the PC's won. Only thing that's really changed on the year from a Governmental point of view has been property tax increases on farmland of 50% in some cases. More a reflection of increased land prices than anything else.

Grass you and politics wow!

Your useless Notley is a one term Alberta mistake!

Me and politics wow what? Try reading my original post again, slowly this time and you will maybe be able to understand there was no political bias in it - it was an apolitical statement of fact.
I don't know why you think Notley is anything to do with me - never voted for the NDP, never been a party member. Read that slowly too and it might sink in.

Notley will win again. She will not cut the government staff. She did inherit a wreck though, the conservatives could not balance the budget at 100 dollar oil. Most people understand that. She has not done anything out of the ordinary yet in my view. The carbon tax was coming if she put in in or not. There probably will be a sales tax soon as oil patch in dire straights,....though they would pay minimal royalties even at 100 dollar oil. I think would rather have a sales tax then raising income taxes, but who knows.

Some fair comments I think nicolass. No idea if she will win again, long time in politics till 2019.

[Braveheart]

Grassfarmer, the huge increase in farm land taxes was a legacy of Greg Selinger. Selinger brought in the forced amalgamation failure, and hanged the Municipal Act to allow outrageous proportioning resulting in taxes from farmland financing urban paving and water projects in towns Selinger had an obvious secret desire to reduce any power rural ratepayers may have had and make them mere serfs to those elite inside the perimeter. Sounds a lot like soviet Russia used to be.

You say nothing has changed under Pallister. Well give him time. He inherited the largest financial mess of any province in Canada that had been run by the most unpopular Premier ever.

[Retired]

Klause Seeing as only educated people should vote you and sk3 had better get together and make sure you both vote for the same party as you two will be the only ones voting as you two knowit all. Other wise it will be a hung vote.

[burnt]

If you have 8 1/2 minutes to watch this clip, you will get a glimpse of where Ontario and Alberta are headed, Ontario being much farther down the path than Alberta with the liberals bringing in the basic guaranteed income - "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need..." The ability diminished and the needs increased - surprise!

Notley reminders me of "Ivy Starnes" from this clip -

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFhlqQ1dUUM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFhlqQ1dUUM[/URL]