marketing???

[bucket]

Farmers might sign a contract for march thru june delivery on wheat and then go borrow the interest free advance money.

Before it was trying to have cash flow without any guarantee from the board about delivery, price or acceptance.

[farmaholic]

Bucket: Without sounding arrogant or
smug, we were operating from a fairly
strong financial position. We were able
to keep the bills paid with the trickle
of CWB cheques and "short term" lines of
credit until the deferrals came in(quit
that horse shit with incorporation).
How much better off could have the farm
been if this new environment existed for
a decade or more is a hypothetical
question I can't answer.

Haven't sold any wheat, durum or barley
yet either.

[hobbyfrmr]

Great discussion about choice.
Like Parsley, I am an organic farmer and I
choose to subscribe to weber commodities even
though it does not directly impact my farm.
Weber has figured out a way to get market
information to farmer clients that they find
valuable. End of story.

Thinking of choice, Stubblejumper, I suggest you
choose your words wisely. I find your statement
vs. weber commodities shocking. I'm am one of
those not to smart farmers, but wow that is a very
bold statement. Agriville is a forum with farmers
from western Canada, eastern Canada, Australia,
and the U.K.. I hope you can back your statement
vs. Weber Commodities with facts. Presently, just
a dumb farmer reading this thread, here is how I
regard what you have written.

In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a
malicious, false,[2][not specific enough to verify]
and defamatory spoken statement or report, while
libel refers to any other form of communication
such as written words or images.[3] Most
jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or
criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and
retaliate against groundless criticism.

Choose your words carefully.

[stubblejumper]

I will quote webber "**** you and the horse you rode in on"

[sumdumguy]

Marleters have really helped Saskatchewan grow.
i have lived life in the free market. Special crops
saved farmers from going under while they tried
to out live the wheat board.

Marketers carry on, and hold your heads high.
You have worked hard to stay abreast of world
demand and transfer that wealth to us. Let these
buffoons find their own markets.

They can say what they like, but never has the
farmer had more power and the giztapo does not
like it!

[wd9]

Like transgenic and the terms around it,
marketing is the same way.

Market as noun, market as verb, market
as entities and businesses, markets as
collections of the above, super market,
farmers market. It can get quite
confusing to discuss if we don't know
what the actual topic is.

I think a lot of farmers see traders as
adding cost to a commodity, ie taking a
profit from the food chain yet adding
nothing to the product. Yet, it would
seem, it is the cost of price discovery
for that commodity.

So the topic is.... "marketing?" What
exactly is the original post about
anyways?

[cottonpicken]

Lol,just when i thought this place was was getting a
little boring you guys go and totally redeem
yourselves,lol.

[bucket]

stubble quoting Weber.

Who'd have thunk it!

[parsley]

How much snow do you have , cott? Could we
pool it, and sell it to the Global Warmists so they
can melt the evidence. Pars

[hobbyfrmr]

Wd9, I agree with your thoughts. The fact is, the
only reason brokers exist is, because the farmer
is too lazy to do his own price discovery. This is
conditioned behavior from years of having it done
for them. The wheat board was only one part of
this conditioning. The local elevator system also
contributed to this behavior. When I was a 16 yr
old farmer, i would watch the locals walk into the
elevator, begin dialogue. Then the agent would
walk them through everything, and eventually the
farmer would choose yes or no. If yes, agent
would look after all the forms and documents and
farmer would sign at the bottom. Man you should
have seen the look on a farmers face when he
had to hold a pen and sign. The other classic
action the farmers would do, was when it was
time to pay for his stuff he would pull out his
cheque book and push it across the desk for the
agent to fill out. It was the weirdest action I ever
saw. The farmer was all smug making the agent
do the administrative side. I would look at that
farmer and wonder how much education he had.
Fast forward to the 90s and the next generation of
farmers would deflect any market/administrative
responsibility to "the old lady", because they don't
even know how to turn on the computer.
That is the kind of behavior that necessitates
brokers. Until farmers (and they are gaining by
leaps and bounds) do more price discovery for
themselves, there will always be brokers and
middlemen.
Farmers should always do credit checks and take
accounts receivable insurance on new buyers. Of
course that means some phoning and faxing and
about $500.00 in cost. The alternative is let
someone else make an uninsured sale for you. If
it goes right, he is smart as ever. If it goes wrong,
then he goes for coffee and tells everyone how he
got screwed for thousands. Same old broken
record, no attempts to find proactive solutions.