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  • farmaholic
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 17483

    Target Agreements and Grain Pricing Orders...

    Who signs these contracts with more than one company on the same grain.

    I was always under the impression(was probably told) that if you signed one you couldn't offer the same grain to another competing company using the same kind of contract.

    What does the fine print say?
  • farming101
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3955

    #2
    once a target price/GPO is triggered it immediately becomes
    a delivery contract
    Go to the back of the line do not pass go if you try and sell
    the same grain to more than one company with a contract in place

    a contract is a contract

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    • bucket
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 17033

      #3
      And if delivery doesn't take place?

      **** the 90 day extension.

      Don't know why ritz didn't fix that.

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      • wmoebis
        Senior Member
        • Aug 1999
        • 2652

        #4
        Herd of a guy that offers 10 bus total to every elevator at target price. If one triggers he offers more and pulls the rest. If he gets in trouble he may have to buy out 10 bus max.

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        • dalek
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2000
          • 1553

          #5
          They don't know or care that it's the same grain, if you end up contracting it twice you get to find more grain or buy your way out of the contract

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          • Daylate
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 588

            #6
            Lol. If all companies would get online contracting available, we would instantly know and could cancel the other immediately. Viterra in my opinion jascthe advantage on this. Contract online without talking to anybody, email confirmation then same thing when it's triggered. I would rather let Richardson have a sale, but they never attract my attention with price cause listed basis is 90% of the time in any given year higher. And they hold your target agreement, without any indication that basis is moving for you or against you because it's rarely changed andcso secretive.all you can do on their site is look at their basis, which very rarely changes.
            For this reason the like viterra contracting system better.

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17033

              #7
              If the contract expires without delivery ....I think the graincos should be shit out of luck.

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              • farming101
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 3955

                #8
                I hear you 90 day extension is way too long.
                And the compensation for going past the 90 days is a pittance
                Last edited by farming101; Apr 6, 2016, 11:09.

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                • food4u
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 577

                  #9
                  know from personnal experience that even after 90 days it takes a phone to the compliance officer at the CGC to get things moving.

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                  • bucket
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 17033

                    #10
                    I am not sure why it's so hard.

                    Graincos are wanting new crop on the books but can't order the cars to move the contracted grain for that time period.

                    It seems this whole industry needs a look and cta didn't address the simple things like that.

                    For every 100 tonne contract a car should be ordered for a reasonable time frame of that contract.

                    It's called scheduling. 3 months after the fact is speculating.

                    If you take an off the combine price or a September price. ... does a December delivery seem reasonable? Had it happen more than once.

                    Not even mentioned in any review of transportation or politicians thinking of making changes to contracts by graincos.

                    And there won't be because the government is in the grain business.

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