Marketing for profit is tough

[flatbroke]

liberty; I think you answered your own question admirably! "...high quality wheat grown in WESTERN provinces... outside the designated area..." apples and oranges, I'd say. After reading the discussion between yourselves and almoy I've come to the conclusion the 2 sides of this can never reconcile, as it comes down to a very deep attitude difference; those that value co-operation, community, etc. and those that would sell their own mother to make an extra buck. I wish you all a good year, regardless.

[TOM4CWB]

Flatbroke;

A simple question...

I assume you accuse me as being one who would sell my mother for an extra buck...

Now on the Co-operation thing... I assume you mean those who are in the CWB "designated area" and I assume you believe the Pro-monopoly CWBers as part of the "co-operative" group.

Now I find it Ironic, that the Pro-monopoly CWBers are willing to steal many millions of dollars from all their neighbours who are asking for market choice...

So who exactly is on moral high ground here?

You grew less than one truckload of wheat this year... and you are bound and determined to control my farm that produced many many times what you could produce, and take my profit away and add it to your bank account... through the CWB monopoly.

If I had freely contracted with the CWB... under a marketing choice system... then this would have been co-operation.

But IF I choose not to offer my wheat to the CWB... and decide to study my market... take huge risk... and work very hard and long to develop my market...

Why exactly should I pay the CWB money... that you will not recieve more than a few cents from... (because your volume is so low), after all... I take all the risk of growing, handling, marketing, and getting paid for my farms blood sweat and tears...

Why exactly do you call this co-operation?

Isn't CWB monopoly marketing more like extortion rather than co-operation?

[liberty]

How is single desk selling in any way a "co-operative" venture? It relies, for its very existence, on fines and jail terms for anyone who chooses to market wheat outside the system.

Co-operation implies a voluntary exchange mechanism. There's nothing voluntary about the CWB.

If there's anyone who's willing to sell their mother to make a buck, it's the single desk advocates. They justify prison terms for unauthorized export of a harmless commodity like wheat by claiming that this is necessary to realize "premiums" for producers. It seems that they are the real money grubbers in this debate.

What's even sadder is that these premiums don't actually exist in the first place. So we have people being deprived of basic liberties in the pursuit of nothing more than a fantasy.

[liberty]

Flatbroke: you did not answer any of my questions can you tell me why.

Don't disappear from this tread because we people of market choice would like a few answers from our marketing board that we never are able to get.

Please make me a believer in the CWB with a few answers that can be backed up with some real supposely confidential evidence of premiums.

This year is more unusual that other years. Open market could extract $2.00 more per bus. Normal years open market could extract up to a $1.00 more for quality milling wheat than the CWB would.

Don't get angry at me prove me wrong inside.

[JACKFLASH]

No wonder myself and other farmers are growing more oats and canary seed,and bidding good-bye to wheat and barley.