Chuck -- the do nothing gag minister

[AdamSmith]

That crazy Google,

Burbert, was this you? You still running your old L2? You still just about broke?
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Gleaner L2 Header

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Posted by Burbert on December 10, 2003 at 16:51:40:
Which model of straight cut header will fit our 77 L2? We use the combine, for wheat, barley and canola and do about 400 acres per year. Currently the header on the machine is equipped with a pickup for swathes. By the way speaking of pickups, whats with those wheels? The way they are mounted about all they are good for is checking the pickup height when you are moving, since they aren't mounted strong enough to actually hold the pickup up?

Posted by wirebilly on December 11, 2003 at 22:19:00:
In Reply to: Gleaner L2 Header posted by Burbert on December 10, 2003 at 16:51:40:

In Reply to: Gleaner L2 Header posted by Burbert on December 10, 2003 at 16:51:40

hey,we have an 18ft ridgid that will fit it, and its yours cheap, like under $500. great clean head.

Posted by Burbert on December 12, 2003 at 11:52:04:

wirebilly,Where is your farm? I am just about broke this year so your offer is interesting indeed!

Posted by wirebilly on December 13, 2003 at 11:34:19:
In Reply to: Re: Gleaner L2 Header posted by wirebilly on December 11, 2003 at 22:19:00:

were in southwest lower michigan.


Posted by Burbert on December 13, 2003 at 11:47:32:
In Reply to: Re: Re: Gleaner L2 Header posted by wirebilly on December 13, 2003 at 11:34:19:

wirebilly, Thanks for the info on the header, but you are 2 far away, by about 1500 mi or so. Thanx again for the info though.

[mustardman]

"I SEE said the blind man to his deaf wife how this agriville site works."

If you don't like what some one says you look thru past posts and dig up dirt on them to use against them.
The real Adam Smith had more class.

[kryger]

Burburt is the classical CWB supporter. 400 acres total. And he tells everybody else how they can market their grain. What a country.

[Incognito]

Mustardman:
Google it - it has his email address. You can email your same opinions back and forth.

[silverback]

The L2 is a wonderful combine.

In fact, it is such a good machine that the management decided that the machine should never be changed, improved, or updated. Other companies may be producing much higher capacity, faster, and more reliable machines, but they are doing things recklessly and without care for others.

Oh... .., wait. I was thinking about the CWB there for a minute. Actually, the L2 was scrapped and improved drastically over the years with the new Gleaners being pretty great machines.

As for the cwb ....

[AdamSmith]

Mustardman, you may be the only person who reads this site who didn't recognize burbert for what he was/is,

a troll.

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

You can read every posting and not one, ever has offered anything constuctive or positive.

Not all wheatboard supporters on this site are trolls in my opinion, but burburt clearly is and deserves neither consideration or respect.

[jensend]

here i thought this thread was about chuck strahl! his suite of programs is a joke they cooked up in a short afternoon and won't be implemented anyway. it has absolutely no new blood. if grain farmers are thinking this or any other govt. is going to give them what americans get they're dreaming, esp. if the economy slows down you'll be the first to feel the pinch. pretty low rent adamsmith.

[parsley]

Does quick action necessarily mean good is done?

I thought this was an interesting read:


The Politics of Grain
Larry Weber
DTN Columnist

Tue Aug 21, 2007 07:01 AM CDT

Pride and Prejudice -- Inside Canada's Wheat Board

Some interesting quotes and
comments as seen by DTN
Contributing Analyst Larry
Weber.

"The power of doing anything
with quickness is always prized
much by the possessor, and
often without any attention to the
imperfection of the performance."
Jane Austin - English novelist
(1775-1817) -- Author of Pride
and Prejudice


My wife, Heidi, has been on a Jane Austin kick over the past 45 days. So much so that her obsession has found me constantly listening to her explain how the book has moved her.

I haven't read it; however, I've been subjected to countless reruns of the same movie that for many nights, I thought I was part of Bill Murray's Groundhog Day --Look! It is 10:00 PM and we are starting out the same as yesterday -- watching Pride
and Prejudice!

Rather than disengage, I found it might prove beneficial that I at least
study part of the characters and as I did, became acutely aware that the similarities between Canada's marketing board and some of the cast were stunning.

But then for me, everything works back to politics and grain. And yes, I am not normal.

After 26 years in the grain industry, I am somewhat jaded, cynical and at times,contemptuous but when I came across the quote from Pride and Prejudice, it stopped me dead in my tracks, like a deer in headlights, just before vehicle impact.

For me, it summarized what has been inadequate with the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) policy direction over the past 20 years.

For years, whenever Canadian farmer sentiment towards the CWB turned sour,
executive management always reacted quickly to quash any uprising with a new invigorated (in their mind) CWB that half-heartedly addressed their concerns with the promise of a new invigorated CWB that listened to their requirements.

When I read Chairman Ken Ritter's comments after a Canadian judge quashed the open market for barley state that status quo is not an option for the CWB, I too fell into
the decade's long trap that the CWB will change.

When the Fixed Price Contracts were announced last week, I saw that nothing has changed and Ritter blew smoke upeveryone's backside, yet again.

The CWB had ample time to give farmer's new pricing tools to enhance cash flow and could have even gone so far as set aside a certain volume for farmer's to export their own product without interference or cost from the CWB.

That would require vision.

Vision has not been part of the landscape at 423 Main Street in Winnipeg for a long, long time.

It all boils down to pride and prejudice. The CWB is too proud to put farmer's well being ahead of their own and too prejudiced to think that they can operate in the same environment as they have within the last 20 years.

Instead, Canadian farmers will have to live with more ad hoc changes. It brings me full circle to the quote at the start of this post.

What the CWB believes is making
progress, is being judged by farmers as an imperfect performance.

Best they not conduct any polls or have a vote on their existence anytime soon.

There is nothing they can do today to stop the rising concern across the Prairies save for no cost export permits.

That would require vision and past performance would indicate that it has been imperfect.

Today there are only two options -- change or be changed.
Choose wisely.

Larry Weber can be reached at: larry@webercommodities.com

[AdamSmith]

Of course it was low rent jensend. That was the whole point. This whole episode is low rent.

It's 20% of production demanding that the other 80% of production bow down to their negative approach to farming and probably negative approch to life in general. And when we don't they become indignant as all hell that we don't share their negative views.

It's eastern and urban Liberal politicians ramming their ignorance and greed down western farmers throats.

It's wheat board supporters offering zero in the way of evidence to support their position,

it's the cwb themselves causing a half billion dollars in western Canadian wealth to evaporate in the blink of an eye.

It's people who think they have a stake in this industry but don't, or their stake in the western grain economy is limited, that are the loudest and shrillest proponents of the current dysfunctional system.

So spare me your indignation jensend, because there is nothing more indignant and repulsive as forcing others to surrender their individual rights of property ownership and for no other reason than pure envy, ignorance and greed.

[jensend]

harper & co seemed to have such a clear vision when they were in opposition you'd think they'd have had a ready to go program the day they got elected. face it, these guys are the same as the last bunch, they'll take your vote and run. i always voted to the right but i could care less who's in govt. now. it just doesn't make any difference. remember the special canadian grains program mulroney gave us - it was only a billion but it paid out significant money to producers. those days are gone; the value is in the announcement and not to the producers. give it up, your boys are no better than the last bunch.