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  • TOM4CWB
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 16511

    StatsCan... Agriweek comment...

    From Morris W Dorosh Agriweek Sept 7;
    Title: July 31 grain and oilseed stocks are near average
    Crop-year-end grain and oilseed stocks return to more usual levels

    ..."The underestimating error for the last two harvests is almost half a million ton- nes. Large differences in farm stocks from one report to the next make it hard for grain companies to anticipate off-farm flow.
    These errors obviously arise from the information that is provided by farm- ers in the course of Statistics Canada surveys. Many farmers, it seems, see a value in under-reporting both what is in their bins and what comes off their fields. There does not seem to be much that can be done about it. The Statis- tics Act requires that farmers respond to surveys but it has no power to make them tell the truth."

    Don't be surprised when Statscan is required to change reports... because you guys say this yourselves... YOU LIE to Statscan. So be it. We reap what we sow.
  • Hopalong
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 1244

    #2
    Some posters even brag about reporting false information.

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    • sumdumguy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 12067

      #3
      Not to mention the fact that statisticians make errors.

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      • farming101
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 3956

        #4
        Not too sure what difference it makes what is in farmer's bins anyway.

        The stocks remaining were obviously not for sale at the prices offered, and they won't be for sale this year either unless prices go up.

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        • Guest

          #5
          they should just can stats can , period . it's a joke l they are still trying to figure out seeded acres . and like someone else said there isn't a bushel of canola left in farmers bins in these parts , how about your area Tom , any there ?.. maybe this new one is just bullshit , to help lower price . I not believe there is any carryover at all ????

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          • farming101
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 3956

            #6
            By the end of August farmers had delivered 920,900 tonnes of canola into the system.
            The question is how much of that was new crop? Was there a lot of canola out of the field and off the farm by August 30?
            Maybe 1 million tonnes of on farm stocks July 31 isn't too far off.

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3266

              #7
              Some August delivery will be new crop since there was canola harvested by Aug 31 here in S AB.

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              • vvalk
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 942

                #8
                Most canola in southern Alberta was harvested by aug 31. Everything canbra in Lethbridge crushed for the month was mostly if not all new crop. Hate sting down here started in the second week of August. Lots of canola was swathed in July even

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 22301

                  #9
                  In oil country in western Sask and areas in Alberta , there are many farms with a lot of carry over canola from 1 or 2 or even 3 years. When you have a big second source of second or third income (cattle the past two years) a lot of those guys did not need to sell canola or just did not because of tax implications. Things have changed a bit over the past 3-4 months in both sectors. IMO, that's were the extra canola came from. ITs not sitting on grain only farms - well 95% of it aint - JMO.

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 22301

                    #10
                    Some of those guys have had the ability to hold for 2 to even 4 years if the wish to wait for $14 canola again - if it ever gets back there is not the point - they can wait er out till things change , and things have changed. Both oil and drought in those areas have shifted the mindset a bit.

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