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All in the name of "climate change".

To add further credence to the study. Saskatchewan's two farm plots were in the lentil "hot spots" of Saskatoon (Sutherland) and Rosthern.

Just like Bartles and Jaymes; The Indian Government and Indian farmers thank you for your support.

You might want to quiz Director hopefuls to see where they stand... Reply With Quote
Oct 21, 2020 | 11:41 2 Make sure you spray your lentils with glyphosate to mess up the vigour so importing country’s can’t grow them good. Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 11:46 3
    Quote Originally Posted by LWeber View Post
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    All in the name of "climate change".

    To add further credence to the study. Saskatchewan's two farm plots were in the lentil "hot spots" of Saskatoon (Sutherland) and Rosthern.

    Just like Bartles and Jaymes; The Indian Government and Indian farmers thank you for your support.

    You might want to quiz Director hopefuls to see where they stand...
    Wealth distribution Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 12:00 4 And do not ask to have your checkoff money back....that's an abcsolute no no... Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 12:03 5 Pulse: .....nonrefundable.

    Wonder if there will be discussion at the BOD table. Reply With Quote
    ajl
    Oct 21, 2020 | 12:36 6 This is why we need additional seed taxes here in this country. Because we can't expect our foreign competition to pay them for our genetics and intellectual property. Everyone who isn't living under a rock knows this is happening. Our federal government even promotes this under the climate change guise. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 12:40 7 ARE ANY OF YOU SASK PULSE DIRECTORS ON HERE ??????????????????????????
    What in the gods name of christ is going on ???????????????????????????????? Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 13:16 8 Way to go Weber....waking farmers up...wtf...lmao Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 13:22 9
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    ARE ANY OF YOU SASK PULSE DIRECTORS ON HERE ??????????????????????????
    What in the gods name of christ is going on ????????????????????????????????
    Look who is running they won't comment here. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 13:43 10 And not even a thank you card....

    It's a wonder people like Gregor Mendel, Seager Wheeler, and Al Slinkard were able to accomplish what they did with what they had.

    Can't be done now anymore. Takes waaaayyy more money and expertise Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 14:32 11
    Quote Originally Posted by farming101 View Post
    And not even a thank you card....

    It's a wonder people like Gregor Mendel, Seager Wheeler, and Al Slinkard were able to accomplish what they did with what they had.

    Can't be done now anymore. Takes waaaayyy more money and expertise
    Do you think they were developing varieties for other nations Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 14:58 12 [QUOTE= You might want to quiz Director hopefuls to see where they stand...[/QUOTE]

    And in another University of Saskatchewan peer reviewed scientist findings...

    Peer reviewed by how many at the University of Saskatchewan?

    In 2017, when the project started, 22,600 acres of lentils were seeded in Crop District 16 where Rosthern is located. A total of 3,920,000 lentil acres were seeded in SK that year. That equates to .005% of all lentil acres in SK; yet this was deemed a " production hot spot". Their description - not mine.


    For $35 million in checkoff funding in SK across all sectors, farmers should have kick ass representation - instead of lick ass representation.

    There are a few gems representing farmers - but there are not enough kicks to outweigh the licks. Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 15:22 13 But some of the countries on the list are chronically short of food and May be even more so with climate change. But let’s just think of ourselves first all the time and not worry about whether other people go hungry? And we have been using plant genetics from all around the world for our benefit for decades! Did we pay for all the free genetic material? Seems to me lentils originated in the Middle East. How did we end up being such important lentil producers in Canada? Where did the genetics come from?
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    Oct 21, 2020 | 15:28 14
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    But some of the countries on the list are chronically short of food and May be even more so with climate change. But let’s just think of ourselves first all the time and not worry about whether other people go hungry? And we have been using plant genetics from all around the world for our benefit for decades! Did we pay for all the free genetic material? Seems to me lentils originated in the Middle East. How did we end up being such important lentil producers in Canada? Where did the genetics come from?
    Donate your farm..... Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 15:32 15
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    But some of the countries on the list are chronically short of food and May be even more so with climate change. But let’s just think of ourselves first all the time and not worry about whether other people go hungry?
    I think thinking of Canadian farmers first should be a priority....we are giving our products away... Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 15:37 16 Got SaskWheat check off and SaskFlax refunds in the mail today. Just SaskCanola yet.

    Shame on me!!!! Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 15:51 17
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    But some of the countries on the list are chronically short of food and May be even more so with climate change. But let’s just think of ourselves first all the time and not worry about whether other people go hungry? And we have been using plant genetics from all around the world for our benefit for decades! Did we pay for all the free genetic material? Seems to me lentils originated in the Middle East. How did we end up being such important lentil producers in Canada? Where did the genetics come from?
    Two words is all. Useful idiot. Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 15:52 18
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    Got SaskWheat check off and SaskFlax refunds in the mail today. Just SaskCanola yet.

    Shame on me!!!!

    How dare you? Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 15:53 19
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Do you think they were developing varieties for other nations
    They were discovering new genetic crosses rather than thinking they were "creating" something. Did they set out to get rich from their work? Don't think so.

    Wheeler and Slinkard both deserve their recognition in the Sask Ag Hall of Fame.

    Plants belong to the world. As such, sooner or later a beneficial plant is not going to stay in one area. It will spread around the world to wherever it will bring benefits to those living there.
    The point being made is a rather small group of farmers shouldn't be the ones helping to foot the bill to kickstart ag in some other part of the world. I agree Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 16:10 20 Maybe those countries will send some
    back when the seed co.s get everything locked
    Up here.
    I am sure there will be a law against that too.
    They cover all the bases Reply With Quote

  • Oct 21, 2020 | 17:01 21
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    How dare you?
    My bags aren't packed for Thunberg Tour guilt trips.
    That is her jingle bucket, get your own. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 17:10 22
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    Got SaskWheat check off and SaskFlax refunds in the mail today. Just SaskCanola yet.

    Shame on me!!!!

    You ungrateful bastard. ....better?

    Hahaha
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    Oct 21, 2020 | 17:14 23 And other local exporters get exclusive rights to the better varieties Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 17:18 24
    Quote Originally Posted by Rareearth View Post
    And other local exporters get exclusive rights to the better varieties
    ...that you paid for the R&D.

    Front of the class ...If you knew for how much $, you would puke, RareEarth... Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 17:21 25 This is nothing new. Back in early 90's I was in attendance when a group of farmers and dignitaries of the newly formed country of Kazakhstan and the AG Minister stood up and said he wanted to thank the gov't of Canada and it's people for supplying them with enough Wheat, Barley and Canola that they were now able to be self supporting. Now they are our competition all made possible with our help. Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 17:44 26
    Quote Originally Posted by wmoebis View Post
    This is nothing new. Back in early 90's I was in attendance when a group of farmers and dignitaries of the newly formed country of Kazakhstan and the AG Minister stood up and said he wanted to thank the gov't of Canada and it's people for supplying them with enough Wheat, Barley and Canola that they were now able to be self supporting. Now they are our competition all made possible with our help.
    "It's a wonder people like Gregor Mendel, Seager Wheeler, and Al Slinkard were able to accomplish what they did with what they had."

    Al Slinkard was the father of Sask Lentils.... was a plant breeder from the US and a genius plant breeder.

    If Sask Pulse/CDC Saskatoon, had not sold out a few years back... there would not be levies and royalties on pulse crops in western Canada anywhere today. If that were the case still... I would not begrudge sharing the pulses like the US did to help get western Canada going with good pulse genetics. Cheers Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 20:28 27 Oops unlike,

    Wonder where the usa got its varieties from?

    Anyway, wondering:
    - how many Pulse varieties Sask Pulse growers released?
    - very how many years?
    - average cost per year to CDC, and internal employees per year?

    What would be the average cost per variety?

    Pulse growers wanted out of Pulse Canada because they could market better? Yet international marketing not core business activity of Pulse Growers. Plant breeding core activity or not? Now the university (CDC does breeding) with saskatchewan taxpayer money to compete against saskatchewan producers? Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 22:39 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Rareearth View Post
    Oops unlike,

    Wonder where the usa got its varieties from?

    Anyway, wondering:
    - how many Pulse varieties Sask Pulse growers released?
    - very how many years?
    - average cost per year to CDC, and internal employees per year?

    What would be the average cost per variety?

    Pulse growers wanted out of Pulse Canada because they could market better? Yet international marketing not core business activity of Pulse Growers. Plant breeding core activity or not? Now the university (CDC does breeding) with saskatchewan taxpayer money to compete against saskatchewan producers?
    125 varieties released royalty free for the up front funding total of 42 million. Over 25 years.
    Was it a good deal for farmers? What is/has the pulse industry meant to SK farmers? Some years sales of Pulse crops have been in the billions...

    This thread is very misleading. No genetics were ‘given’away. Read it. The Genome Canada project was about developing a model to determine which characteristics of a cultivar make it suitable for certain growing conditions.
    And news flash, plant breeders all over the world have various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm. How else do you introduce improvements? GM not being done in pulses (in Canada) so it’s crosses and back crosses.
    Not sure what the motivation behind this thread is. Whatever. Not my issue any longer. Just be good to seek out some facts before jumping to conclusions Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 21, 2020 | 22:43 29 Hold on. Farmers are supposed to be upset because Canadian plant scientists have planted small plot trials of lentils in 9 other countries with different climates to learn the impact of climate on Lentil yields? Yet at the same time in 2017-18 Canadian seed companies exported $646 million dollars of seed (pulse and cereals) to over 100 countries around the world? Many of those varieties likely originated from Canada's public plant breeding system.

    I will not identify the Canadian seed company, but points made on their website include:
    -global supplier of special crops and select seed.
    -they offer hands-on advice and answer to questions about the seed and the practices used to produce them
    -they have the newest pulse varieties from the Crop Development Centre
    -they offer the latest seed varieties.

    Why worry about small plot research trials when farmers around the world can simply purchase the best Canadian seed from private Canadian seed growers/companies?

    Consider too that many seed companies pursuing canola development for new canola varieties for distribution in Canada test varieties and rely on seed multiplication in south America during the winter season

    And wasn't one of the reasons for getting rid of the board so that Canadian farmers could access and grow US wheat varieties?

    It is this type of research that led to canola acres expanding south into the hotter, dryer brown soil zones, and soybeans, lentils and especially corn to move north into cooler regions.

    So given global seed development and trade, what is your suggested solution LW?
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  • Oct 22, 2020 | 06:39 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Quadtrack View Post
    125 varieties released royalty free for the up front funding total of 42 million. Over 25 years.
    Was it a good deal for farmers? What is/has the pulse industry meant to SK farmers? Some years sales of Pulse crops have been in the billions...

    This thread is very misleading. No genetics were ‘given’away. Read it. The Genome Canada project was about developing a model to determine which characteristics of a cultivar make it suitable for certain growing conditions.
    And news flash, plant breeders all over the world have various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm. How else do you introduce improvements? GM not being done in pulses (in Canada) so it’s crosses and back crosses.
    Not sure what the motivation behind this thread is. Whatever. Not my issue any longer. Just be good to seek out some facts before jumping to conclusions
    Interesting to see someone defend complete incompetence...the genetics were gave away and the market is in the shitter. ..

    30 cents for reds is not a good price considering costs to grow them....
    Last edited by bucket; Oct 22, 2020 at 06:42.
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