going hard on faith!

[sksundstrom]

Cowman
I think that to understand NT there has to be a basic understanding of OT from a Hebrew perspective to fully understand NT. NT didn't do away with OT. NT is more a re-newed covenant where the blood sacrifices of animals blood were done away with and Yeshua laid down His life for all mankind once and for all obliterating satan and rendering sin totally powerless. That is if a human accepts Yeshua for who He is.
The focus of NT is OT and it has to be understood that there is not a new group that are invited to heaven. The difference is that through Yeshua the gentiles, all other than jews, can become part of gods family-the Israelites.Eph 3:6.Then become part of Gods people, Eph 2:19-20. There is no church denominations only believers in Yeshua that have become grafted in to the true vine. Sheeps and goats. there is all nationalities in both groups. The dividing line is who has accepted Yeshua and live like it. Not only by words but also with deeds. James 2:14-26. Did you know that the book of James is really the book of Jakob, but king James wanted his name in the Bible so the translators re-named the book of Jakob to the book of James? Really king James version, huh?
Shalom

[SW1-32-5-4]

Hey Sam, I'm not easily offended so blast away. Yes I keep the Sabbath but not a day of the week. you see I happen to believe that Yeshua is my Sabbath according to Matt.12;8. Do I work on 7 days of the week? no. One day is for meeting withother believersActs 20;7,John 20;19. Rom 14;5-6. My Bible says that Yeshua is the originator of faith.Heb.12;2 He didn't need to "get it" from another source. After all He is the Creator. I'm pleased that Jews are coming to faith but you cannot mix legalism with the Gospel of Grace

[SW1-32-5-4]

Sam,
Take your Strong's concordance and check James, you will see that it is the greek name for the Hebrew Jakob. There is no conspiracy about "king James".

[sksundstrom]

SW
Is Exodus 20:8-11 in one or all of your Bibles? Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Is Exodus 21:12-17 in there?12: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
13: Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
14: Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15: Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16: Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17: It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Is Isaiah 66:22-23 there?
22: For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23: And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Togehter with Yeshuas statement in Matt 5 it looks to me like the sabbath is, just like God said, an everlasting covenant even when there is a new heaven and a new earth.
Maybe we shouldn't alter Gods word and get in trouble like the Pharisees in Matt 12?

[SW1-32-5-4]

Well Sam if you are going to live by the law then you better keep it all. That means all the ceremony and sacrifices, are you raising any red heifers? James 2;10-" For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all". Thank God for 1 John 1 ;9. The only way to please God is by walking by Faith, not by perfomance. Titus3;5

[sksundstrom]

Sw
I have faith in the whole Bible and in Yeshua who is the Old Testament come in the flesh. I have faith in that the 10 commandments are still valid today, ALL ten. I have faith in the words spoken by the ruler of the universe regarding times and feasts that believers are commanded to keep forever. I have faith that YHVH is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, there is NO change in Him.I have faith in the Torah,instructions(wrongly translated law), YHVH gave to Moses are for my benefit yesterday, today and tomorrow. I have faith that YHVH spoke true words and I benefit to listen and obey and do according to His word. After all He made this whole thing and knows what makes everything tick!! You wouldn't read a Ford manual when you are fixing a Massey, right?
Now if the "spirit" leads people to do what is not in the Bible or contrary to the Bible, one must surely ask what "spirit" that is.
How can you have faith in the Bible and not follow its instructions? Just use a few verses here and there?

[dballan]

A few verses here and there are better than none at all.

[sksundstrom]

Like seeding a couple of acres out of a section is better than not seeding at all? Think about all the weeds in that field!
The people of God is Israel, Gods household.The gospel wasn't revealed and offered to anybody else but the Jews until the vision that Peter had and his visit with Cornelius. The vision has nothing to do with food,v34-. In v 35 Peter realizes that God accepts men from every nation who fear Him and do what is right. Not just the jews. Eph 2:19-22 and 3:1-6 talks about the gentiles, or non-jews, becoming joint heir with Israel and members of Gods household. Yeshua prayed that all who came to believe in Him, would be one. There was no denominations then. Jews and gentiles were the groups then and only the jews that believed in Yeshua could be "in". The confession that a human being can make to become a member of Gods household the Israelites, is not to follow any denominations decrees, but to follow Yeshua and Gods commandments by faith. Because if a person believes in and confess Yeshua being Gods word in the flesh, it should show by that person living according to Gods instructions. Not denominational dogma- man made religions, human reasoning or traditions of men.
Another interesting thing is that the antichrist is called by Paul as the man of lawlessness. The man without Torah. Doing all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders.
How do we know what is true then? Know God by reading and believing and following His instructions in Torah hafTorah and the re-newed covenant. God doesn't change, Mal 3:6. Why didn't God just wipe everything out and start over again.
That's not His character. Read 2 Sam14:14 and Eze 33:11, John 3:16.
God takes no pleasure in that His people dies!!! The instructions He wrote is for us to believe and to enjoy the blessings that comes with doing it Gods way. That's the gospel, the good news.
For example the people that follow Gods instructions don't have to worry about having eaten the pigs of mr Pickton, who were fed prostitutes to them after he used, abused and killed them. Think about that when you eat your bacon tomorrow.
God is good ALL the time.

[dballan]

True. God is Good all the time. I like my bacon crisp.

[cowman]

I believe Paul laid it out pretty clearly that the "eating laws" were pretty well advice and not some sort of thing that was going to send you to hell? Now Paul was just a man, but if you believe the whole bible is the word of God, then his teachings were inspired by God?
Jesus said I don't come to change the law but to fulfill it? The message here was very clear? The law is something no man can live up to(it is a stumbling block)...sorry it just isn't going to happen! Christ was here to "redeem" us from the law? The book of Ruth is an example of what is meant by a redeemer?
I wouldn't get all bent out of shape about eating pork that might have come from Robert Picton? After all the bone meal we fed our cattle could have come from humans as well? Read the post in the Beef section where it tells about the human bone trade in India?
The fact is pork was not a good thing to eat because the pig is a scavenger in his natural state? He cleans up the garbage and diseased animals? That clearly doesn't hold true for modern pork production...other than maybe the "protein supplements" that might not be of vegetable origin?
The same argument can be made for the Sabbath? What did Jesus say? He pretty well straightened the Pharises out on that one? Now if you believe Jesus was God then you realize that what he was saying? Again read Ruth to understand the role of the redeemer? If you don't believe Christ was God(and the redeemer) then yes you are still under the law and would have to strive to live by the law! Good Luck.