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Ford Calls on the West to Tariff Oil and Potash Bound for US

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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 12104

    Ford Calls on the West to Tariff Oil and Potash Bound for US

    The day we dance to Ontario’s tune is absolutely crazy.
  • AlbertaFarmer5
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 12636

    #2
    I still maintain that all US actions towards Canada in recent decades (not just Trump) have been designed to divide and conquer.

    Working brilliantly. We play right into their strategy.

    51st state wasn't a joke. It's a long standing policy. Trump just said the quiet part out loud.

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    • WiltonRanch
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4551

      #3
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      I still maintain that all US actions towards Canada in recent decades (not just Trump) have been designed to divide and conquer.

      Working brilliantly. We play right into their strategy.

      51st state wasn't a joke. It's a long standing policy. Trump just said the quiet part out loud.
      The myriad of instances in the last 250 years of them trying to take us over militarily and economically points to just that. We share a lot of things in common but when it boils down they aren’t our friends. In my opinion you’re naive to think otherwise. For as much economic benefits we got from nafta we gave up our sovereignty and independence somewhat. We became dependent and expectant the USA would cover defense in exchange for cheap resources. Now I hope we can claw our way back to standing on our own. I blame Trudeau for steering Canada towards being more dependent on the Americans by ticking off the Chinese and Indians and other dumb moves. Funny the prick hightailed it for the states to bang Katie Perry and run the red carpets.

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      • goalieguy847
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 716

        #4
        Id bang katie perry and walk red carpets....

        Is he some sort of secret genius?

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 13228

          #5
          Canadians across the country are pissed at tRump's attacks and support an export tariff to send a message. Its not just Ontario.

          He always leaves essentials like oil, gas, rare earth minerals and potash off the table and then says he doesn't need Canada!

          Sure Donny you lying idiot!

          Whether its a good idea or not depends whether TACO trump follows through or not.

          Doug Ford has been frontline to more job losses. Smith and Moe should be a whole lot more supportive.

          They hardly say a negative thing about Donny's stupid policies or impcat in Ontario and Quebec.

          And Carney made a deal on canola and has improved trade relations with other countries for our benefit so you ingrates need to stop the whiny partisan complaining so much!



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          • goalieguy847
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 716

            #6
            I still believe we just need to outlast trump. All of his tariff garbage to this point has been bluster and struck down by every court at every level.

            Its funny.. because when we make a deal ( gordie howe bridge) ...carney gets roasted over a bad deal.

            But if he doesnt make a deal ( and seriously... this is all under CUSMA..so what deal needs to actually be made?)...he gets roasted for being apathetic or bad at negotiating.


            Now, setting aside other policies that carney has done that i dont agree with..... i really dont feel like he has handled trump poorly.

            how would any of us negotiate with that muppet down there...who, clearly is just grasping at straws at this point...?

            So they slap on 50% tariffs on everything that arent the BIG thinga that they need....potash....oil...etc...

            But this is the same administration that after spewing out a bunch of " proof" that china interfered in their election in 2020 ( 0 proof whatsoever)..DIDNT SLAP ANY TARIFFS ON CHINA? Or russia?

            lets just flip the script here..

            What tariffs would be placed on canada if we had " interferred" with the 2020 or 2024 election??

            (Amazing that it happened in 2020..when trumps admin was IN CONTROL OF OVERSEEING THE ELECTION!)?

            I dunno. I have a real difficult time.blaming carney here and i think handling trump with kid gloves is probably the best play. All hes doing is raising inflation in his own country and going to further drive up costs for americans. Wouldnt you want to do it the other way when an election is months away??

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3275

              #7
              Absolutely not would be the wise answer from the west. We have a lot of potash that would be worthless without the US market. Where else is it going to go? If we were to place export taxes on it we cede market share to places like Belarus were US eliminated sanctions on fertilizer from that source. President Trump knows that carnage is a wef agent involved in trying to defeat the US. The other thing that happens is that domestic US potash gets a big boost. Right now, they will not develop in the US as it comes in cheaply enough. The US could export tax phosphorous exports to canada. Same thing applies to oil. Trump moved on Venezuela do to the fact that he knows that carnage is involved with the wef jokers trying to over throw the US. Diversify your supply sources. Thug ford can go tariff his cars but otherwise keep his pie hole shut. No bigger fat moron exist anywhere on the planet. Just because ontariowe has nothing of value to the US, does not give him any right to tell the west what to do. Another thing that canada could do is negotiate in the supply management and alcohol space and not act like petulant children but given the input from the far left on here, that is a big ask.

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              • chuckChuck
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 13228

                #8
                Don't sign a thing untill after the mid terms which he is trying to figure out how to steal.

                Its unbelievable how far those MAGA idiots will go to bully, cheat and lie. They only think of themselves and their billionaire friends.

                'tRump's record speaks for itself.

                He was unfit to govern. And has only gotten worse.

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 22504

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Don't sign a thing untill after the mid terms which he is trying to figure out how to steal.

                  Its unbelievable how far those MAGA idiots will go to bully, cheat and lie. They only think of themselves and their billionaire friends.

                  'tRump's record speaks for itself.

                  He was unfit to govern. And has only gotten worse.
                  They just took the page from the Dems , much like Carney’s entire platform was swiped from PP
                  same dung , different pile

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