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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12709

    Previous Iran Nuclear Deal

    In September 2013, President Obama and Iranian President Rouhani had a historic phone call — the first direct U.S.-Iran presidential contact since 1979 — signaling a serious diplomatic opening. By November 2013, the U.S. and its P5+1 partners (UK, France, Germany, China, Russia, and the EU) reached an interim agreement called the Joint Plan of Action to freeze parts of Iran's nuclear program while full negotiations continued.

    After 20 months of intensive talks, a framework agreement was reached in Lausanne, Switzerland in April 2015, with Iran agreeing to accept restrictions on its nuclear program and submit to expanded international inspections. That July, the final deal — the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) — was signed. Iran agreed to limit uranium enrichment, reduce its stockpile, and allow IAEA monitoring in exchange for sanctions relief, extending its nuclear "breakout time" from 2–3 months to at least 12 months. By January 2016, the IAEA verified Iran had fulfilled its obligations and the deal went into effect.

    Obama's view was that while the deal wasn't perfect, it created the most comprehensive inspection and verification framework ever negotiated. Trump argued his predecessor's team simply negotiated poorly and should have walked away to force better terms.
  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12709

    #2
    And Obama didn't start an unnecessary war that destabilized the whole middle east and set off the the biggest energy disruption since 1973 that will result in a serious economic shock.

    Way to go donny. There is his legacy! The stupidest president in history starts a war that nobody can win! Where everyone comes out a loser. especially tRump.

    And there is pathetic loser JD Vance interfering in an election propping up Victor Orban who is going to also lose!







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    • blackpowder
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9237

      #3
      They should have an age limit on presidents.
      What I would like to read are the numbers behind Chinese involvement in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran etc.
      I can tell you they are THE competition in our patch. In places the only comp. Big pockets.
      This is a China play for Trump. Hopefully Ottawa's next lol.

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 21851

        #5
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        And Obama didn't start an unnecessary war that destabilized the whole middle east and set off the the biggest energy disruption since 1973 that will result in a serious economic shock.

        Way to go donny. There is his legacy! The stupidest president in history starts a war that nobody can win! Where everyone comes out a loser. especially tRump.

        And there is pathetic loser JD Vance interfering in an election propping up Victor Orban who is going to also lose!






        Ummmm , Libya ??
        Also Obama sent a plane load of cash to Iran that went into state sponsored terrorist activities.
        Musta forgot about all that .

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        • shtferbrains
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 5172

          #7
          All MSM talks about is Nuclear weapons.
          They have been supplying all the bad guys with drones, missiles, and rockets.

          Summary of Peak Stockpiles
          Iran ~3,000 – 10,000 Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
          Hezbollah ~150,000 Rockets, ATGMs, and Ballistic Missiles
          Hamas / PIJ ~20,000 – 30,000 Short and Medium-Range Rockets
          Others Hundreds Drones and Short-Range Missiles
          They had an estimated 100,000 drones and could build 400 a day in underground factories.
          They are world leaders in drone production.
          Even the US copied their drone technology.
          They supply Russia and all their terrorist proxies.

          Just leave them alone and hope they go away?

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 12709

            #8
            Putin and Russia have been supplying weapons and arms to Iran over the years and helping them target US military sites.

            But donny says nothing about Russia? And Iran has been assisting Putin to attack Ukraine!

            Ukraine is supplying drones and expertise to protect against Iran's attacks and little donny still favours Putin?

            Trump sure seems to have been compromised by his best buddy Vlad!

            I wonder what putin has on donny that has made him into such an ass kissing a puppet? Its unbelievable how weak tRump is on Putin.

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            • furrowtickler
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 21851

              #9
              You do realize that the chain of events that started from day 1 of Trumps second term was and still is about quelling China and BRICS most likely, other than stopping the wide open southern boarder and drugs
              1. getting China out of Panama
              2. Stopping China and Russia influence in Venezuela
              3. prevent China and Russia from influencing resources in Greenland
              4. preventing Russian influence in Cuba only 90 miles from the U.S. and in very important shipping routes for the U.S. economy out of the gulf
              5. Squeezing China hard on 45% of its oil imports , of which is 75% of Iranian oil exports .

              Unfortunately Trump has gone way past what his narcissistic demeanour can handle , and this past two weeks seems like wtf is he saying .
              Way too much for a 79 year old to handle
              The world is at a crossroads, either he just pulled something off to keep China in check for the next decade or this will go sideways fast
              Time will tell

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              • chuckChuck
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 12709

                #10
                An isolationist protectionist tRump has weakened the US and allowed China to step in and have more influence around the world.

                By attacking allies and bullying them he has made China look more reliable as a trading partner.

                By attacking NATO allies and allowing Putin a free hand in the Ukraine he has appeared to be on Putin's side in attacking Europe.

                He has disrupted destabilized and polarized the world.

                The attack on IRAN was his biggest mistake that will turn him into a lame duck president in November.

                He is a wanna be dictator that has set back democracy in his own country and given license to tyrants around the world who now think its okay to use military force whenever they want.





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