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  • shtferbrains
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 5167

    #21
    Not hard to see the logic in his argument at those numbers.
    Those oil companies are making a killing.
    Just like wind and solar.
    It's just sitting down there free for the taking.

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    • blackpowder
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9231

      #22
      I can agree on all points relative to responsibility. But it's too easy to accept generalizations.
      Looking at Norway's fields it's easy to see how they can capture all flaring.
      The price of Minn wheat today was $9.22 CA, not what we're getting paid. Before expenses. And yet many using the same logic see farming as easy. The rain is free for the taking after all.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 12688

        #23
        We all know the oil companies won't spend a nickel more than they have to on reducing flaring or methane leaks if they can get away with it. They purposely underestimate flaring and methane leaks so they don't have to do anything.

        They want taxpayers to pay for it, lust like they want taxpayers to clean up all the abandoned and orphaned wells and the tars sands. Joe Rogan told PP they look like "scorched earth". But PP assured him there are no problems at all, they are the cleanest source of oil on earth! Sure PP! I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you!

        In Alberta and Saskatchewan Its privatize the profits and socialize the liabilities model of development for the oil patch.

        And you don't let the oil companies regulate themselves because they will do nothing if they could away with it.

        Of course BP is on the payroll and doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him!

        But the rest of us know that most oil companies have the cash to do it right, but they wont even follow the current regulations let alone do what is right because it cuts into their profits.

        They sure like the government regulations and red tape that gives them guaranteed access to landowners land at a low cost without negotiating in the market like every other business, but they don't like the regulations that reduce methane, flaring and pollution!

        No those cost money! LOL


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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 12688

          #24
          Pembina Institute | Moving Forward on Methane | 1
          Executive summary
          This document provides a plain language summary of a new technical analysis by the Pembina
          Institute that identifies data and regulatory gaps relating to Alberta’s oil and gas methane
          emissions and provides recommendations. The objective is to demonstrate how Alberta’s
          regulations, reporting data, and emissions estimates can be strengthened to better track
          progress, evaluate compliance, and support deeper reductions.
          We reviewed independent measurement studies, provincial and federal estimates, and industry-
          reported data, including from surveys done under the Alternative Fugitive Emissions
          Management Program. Our detailed findings and methodology can be found in the
          supplementary technical backgrounder.
          Key findings
          Our analysis revealed four critical gaps that must be closed if Alberta is to regain its status as a
          leader on methane emissions:
          1. Emissions data: Alberta is underestimating emissions. The federal greenhouse gas
          inventory, which incorporates independent measurements, estimates that Alberta’s oil
          and gas methane emissions are almost twice the amount indicated by Alberta’s methane
          model, which is based primarily on industry self-reporting. This means that the
          province’s claim to have met its target of reducing methane emissions 45% (from 2014
          levels) by 2023, three years ahead of schedule, is not credible.
          2. Venting: A significant amount of venting is occurring above the province’s limit on vent
          volumes at oil and gas sites. Most facilities vent methane at volumes below the threshold
          above which metering is required, allowing them to estimate their vent volumes using
          flawed methods. This partly explains why measurement-informed estimates of vent
          volumes are five times higher than reported vent volumes.
          3. Separator buildings: Pneumatic controllers and pumps are a significant and under-
          regulated source of methane emissions in separator buildings, and the quality of
          reported data is poor.
          4. Solution gas flaring: Solution gas flaring has more than doubled in Alberta since
          2019, and the removal of Alberta’s solution gas flaring limit in 2025 means policy is
          lacking to prevent further increases. Since a good deal of solution gas flaring is routine
          flaring, the elimination of the limit also puts Alberta out of step with international best
          practices that ban routine flaring and threatens the health of local communities

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          • blackpowder
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 9231

            #25
            No, I don't work in the industry. I didn't say what my boots were doing on that lease. My feeble attempt at keeping it in the real world. I did acknowledge a preference for responsibility.
            You don't own boots but feel free to share anytime your sneakers leave the house.
            You invest an hour a day in your Wizard of Oz identity. No topic gets more than mantra regurgitant and selected cut pastes.

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12688

              #26
              So BP you admit don't know much about the oil and gas industry and what it will cost to reduce methane and flaring?

              But you are still pretty sure they can't afford it?

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