Bit of a dumb question fentanyl

[Landdownunder]

Small town drinking culture in our area in the 70's and 80's was brutal. Farmers packed the bar at 11.05 am if it rained or was raining and stayed the whole day . I know several guys I drank beer with then that didn't make to the 90's. Drinking and driving laws put a stop to most of that culture. One overpriced beer with my ribs meal in town usually enough now thank god.

absolutely crazy times had a buddy call over reminicing about our young days we went to a 21st part a 4 hour bush drive we stopped at every bar on the way and had a box of beer with us 9 bars we called into
just cant and wouldn't do that today different times eh

[Landdownunder]

Good rational civil discussion. Yeah agree with farmaholic got some, well were friends at the time used to smoke left handed tobacco and one thing lead to another sort of bored with pot lives ruined still are one did jail time for theft aint seen them for 20 yrs. Whats a case of beer cost for you guys around the 60/70 dollars here for 24 x 375ml funny my zero alcohol beer that I drink is only 20 bucks below

[Landdownunder]

I used to play cribbage with a old chap in my village every second sunday arvo, claims he never got drunk in his life but used to drink two long necks of stout each and every night and one during day on weekends and did it for like 30 yrs so technically he was a full blown alcoholic good farmer good bloke. Guess you all know guys like this from your past even my missus has one sometimes 2 gin and tonics every night 7 days a week never anymore. Russian Ukraine Swiss heritage can handle there alcohol

[rumrocks]

Everyone should watch the documentary, Vancouver is Dying, by Arron Gun, he explains how the liberal - ndp policy on hard drugs was a complete failure and literally killed hundreds.

[Landdownunder]

Everyone should watch the documentary, Vancouver is Dying, by Arron Gun, he explains how the liberal - ndp policy on hard drugs was a complete failure and literally killed hundreds.

If got some ardent left thinking friends even more left than glen but they 100% agree on conservative policy when it comes to drugs sort of anything that encourages it is wrong way to tackle it. They commend good conservative policy when they see it plenty of middle ground with left voters if they get off there high horse there not all bad one storm chase friend is a left as a hammer and sickle but is a fervent climate change denier bit like the guy in US politics is is fetermann ? Sometime get against democrat policy. think ive just started another argument apologies in advance rains on the way a rare largish February fall feb our driest month

[Old Cowzilla]

Didn't finnish last year of school stayed home dad got hurt bad in farm accident so I took the crop off. After 3 days of morphine they started to wean him off. He told me after he totally understood how people could get addicted to drugs. Many of todays drugs far worse than that now . On side note they are forecasting rain for us on Tuesday above freezing and normal daytime temps this time of year are -12c.Yard already very icy from snow melt and refreeze. Just 6 weeks of winter left ! winning.

[LEP]

A friend of mine in University from Calgary was kind of a unique individual.

He said growing up he would hang around with his brother and his friends some. The brother and 7 or 8 friends started doing heroin. Philip was in grade 9 or 10 and kind of looked after them some when they partied. He saw enough that he never tried it.

It was a few years later when he told me the story and he said they were all dead by then.

This would have been in the late 70s.

[Landdownunder]

Some one mentioned above about latest drug thing is near death experiences or something probably got a name.
Hey in the 80s I used to do same thing was called a dirt bike flat out and faster. Remember getting side swiped by a roo or vice versa luckily only about 40kmh could have been nasty if 80 kmh you guys on dirt bikes have deer and other critters to contend with

[chuckChuck]

If there was a simple solution to the very complex substance addiction crisis don't you think we would have fond it by now?

"The fentanyl addiction crisis is a complex, multi-wave epidemic driven by a combination of pharmaceutical promotion, illicit manufacturing and distribution, and various social and economic factors. The primary sources of the crisis can be broken down into the following key drivers:

1. Overprescription of Opioids

The crisis began in the late 1990s with a sharp increase in the prescribing of opioid medications for chronic pain.

• Pharmaceutical Marketing: Drug companies, most notably Purdue Pharma with OxyContin, engaged in deceptive marketing campaigns that downplayed the risk of addiction, leading physicians to prescribe opioids more broadly.
• Healthcare System Failures: Medical organizations pushed for more attentive pain management, sometimes referring to pain as a "fifth vital sign," which contributed to more liberal prescribing habits. Regulatory bodies, such as the FDA, were slow to respond to the mounting evidence of harm and, in some cases, had close ties to the pharmaceutical industry, allowing the overprescription to continue unchecked.

2. Transition to Illicit Opioids

As awareness of the addiction risks grew and prescription practices became more stringent (including the reformulation of OxyContin to make it harder to misuse), many individuals with an existing opioid dependence turned to more accessible and cheaper illegal alternatives, such as heroin.

3. Influx of Illicitly Manufactured Fentanyl

Starting around 2013, illicitly manufactured fentanyl (IMF) began to flood the market, marking the current and deadliest wave of the crisis.

• High Potency and Profit Margins: Fentanyl is 50 to 100 times stronger than morphine and significantly more potent than heroin, meaning small amounts yield high profit margins for traffickers.
• Ease of Production: Unlike heroin, which is derived from opium poppies, fentanyl is entirely synthetic and can be made in clandestine laboratories using readily available precursor chemicals.
• Adulteration of Other Drugs: Fentanyl is often mixed into other illegal drugs, including heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, and counterfeit prescription pills (e.g., those made to look like oxycodone or Xanax), often without the user's knowledge. This lack of predictability in dosage dramatically increases the risk of fatal overdose.
• Supply Chains: Mexican drug cartels are the primary producers of illicit fentanyl smuggled into the U.S., using precursor chemicals largely sourced from China.

4. Social and Environmental Factors

Underlying social and environmental issues exacerbate the crisis:

• Vulnerability Factors: Individuals with a history of trauma, mental illness, poverty, or lack of stable housing are at a higher risk of developing substance use disorders.
• Lack of Support: Inadequate access to a full spectrum of care, including harm reduction services and evidence-based addiction treatment, contributes to the ongoing crisis.
• Stigma: Stigma surrounding substance use disorders can prevent people from seeking the help they need.

The combination of these factors has created an ongoing public health catastrophe, with overdose deaths becoming a leading cause of death for certain age groups in the U.S. and Canada.

[furrowtickler]

Wide open boarders definitely correlate to increased drug trafficking