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  • rumrocks
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 1179

    #31
    Originally posted by rastafarian View Post
    The Biggest reason Domestic electric vehicles dont sell in N,America is because Dealerships dont like selling them. Dealerships make Some money from the sale BUT their biggest revenue stream is Service. EVs have Way fewer parts and need far less service
    Tesla sold all its cars with Zero dealerships for this reason
    I agree, ice vehicles are costly to operate and maintain, but until they have an electric truck or car that can travel 3 or 400 miles on one charge at - 30 I’ll pass. At some point in time technology might be able to make that happen.

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    • fjlip
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2002
      • 9885

      #32
      Electrical generation and grid costs make that a DREAM!

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      • Old Cowzilla
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2020
        • 1605

        #33
        Originally posted by rumrocks View Post

        I agree, ice vehicles are costly to operate and maintain, but until they have an electric truck or car that can travel 3 or 400 miles on one charge at - 30 I’ll pass. At some point in time technology might be able to make that happen.
        Remember our first cell phones shoe box that needed charged every night for few mins you talked on them . Now a computer with camera that can be charged just buy sitting on the truck consul . once a week. I think 5 years till we see long range -30 stuff and keep it simple.

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        • TSIPP
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 2682

          #34
          Originally posted by rastafarian View Post
          Tesla sold all its cars with Zero dealerships for this reason
          Tesla sold cars on line without a haggle price, the price listed is the price you pay, that got rid of the greasy car salesman, Tesla still has service shops for fixing Tesla vehicles.

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 13066

            #35
            There are numerous options coming for better batteries.

            ​[url]https://evmagazine.com/top10/top-10-solid-state-ev-battery-manufacturers[/url]

            Top 10: Solid State EV Battery Manufacturers

            By Chloe Williment ([url]https://evmagazine.com/author/chloe-williment[/url])
            November 05, 2025




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            • Hamloc
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 3993

              #36
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              There are numerous options coming for better batteries.

              ​[url]https://evmagazine.com/top10/top-10-solid-state-ev-battery-manufacturers[/url]

              Top 10: Solid State EV Battery Manufacturers

              By Chloe Williment ([url]https://evmagazine.com/author/chloe-williment[/url])
              November 05, 2025




              Chuck2 you do realize the Chinese EV’s you constantly promote use Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries which are cheaper to produce and have less charging capacity and therefore less range.

              As an example Ford is repurposing its Glendale Kentucky, EV battery plant to manufacture large-scale Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery Energy Storage Systems for data centres and the electric grid due to changes in the EV market.

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              • chuckChuck
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 13066

                #37
                [url]https://insideevs.com/news/771402/every-solid-state-battery-ev/[/url]

                In the meantime, semi-solid-state batteries are gaining traction. These batteries use a gel-like electrolyte that also promises improvements over traditional lithium-ion batteries. Chinese battery companies have established a firm lead in this space, with 83% of current or planned solid-state battery manufacturing capacity all concentrated in China, BNEF said ([url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-27/europe-needs-a-reset-to-retain-electric-vehicle-battery-relevance[/url]).

                EVs with semi-solid-state batteries are already rolling out in China, albeit in small numbers. Customers can buy and drive them today, thanks to early adopters such as Nio and the state-backed SAIC Motors that invested in the tech early. In the West, Mercedes-Benz and BMW are testing solid-state batteries, and Stellantis is planning to begin trials next year.

                Japanese and Korean automakers are also working on this tech, but they’ve been tight-lipped about their plans. In 2022, Nikkei ([url]https://asia.nikkei.com/business/technology/toyota-secures-huge-lead-in-solid-state-battery-patents[/url]) reported that Toyota held the highest number of solid-state battery patents, followed by Panasonic and Idemitsu.

                In this list, we’re covering both semi-solid-state and all-solid-state batteries. Some of these EVs are already available in select markets, while others are planned to go on sale in the coming years. A few of them are demo vehicles, but we’re including them in the list anyway.

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 13066

                  #38
                  This week, Ford announced plans ([url]https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/02/13/ford-taps-michigan-for-new-lfp-battery-plant--new-battery-chemis.html[/url]) for a new factory in Michigan that will produce lithium iron phosphate batteries for its electric vehicles. The plant, expected to cost $3.5 billion and begin production in 2026, would be the first to make these batteries in the US.


                  “This is a big deal,” said Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer in a press conference ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk7fAfscNd8[/url]) unveiling plans for the factory. Expanding battery options will allow Ford to “build more EVs faster, and ultimately make them more affordable,” said Bill Ford, Ford’s executive chair.
                  Also known as lithium ferrous phosphate (LFP) batteries, the type to be produced at the new plant are a lower-cost alternative to the nickel- and cobalt-containing batteries used in most electric vehicles in the US and Europe today. While the technology has grown in popularity in China, Ford’s factory, developed in partnership with the Chinese battery giant CATL, marks a milestone in the West. By cutting costs while also boosting charging speed and extending lifetime, LFP batteries could help expand EV options for drivers.


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                  • shtferbrains
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 5297

                    #39
                    This week?
                    Feb 2023?

                    That was a different time in the EV cycle.
                    Last edited by shtferbrains; Jan 7, 2026, 09:50.

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                    • fjlip
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 9885

                      #40
                      More Bullshyt from Nut Zero himself...

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