Will Pump Price Dip Below A Loonie ?

[Hamloc]

Yeah and you don't want to know all the ins and outs of grid tied solar? That's fine.

And the fossil fuel industry and utility electricity industry is also subsidized.

So what's your point Hamloc?

Why don't governments make the business case and give us the numbers for renewables in comparison to fossil fuels and nuclear?

They are all subsidized!

So which one or combination is the best deal for taxpayers and consumers?

What are they afraid of?

They are afraid of pissing off the oil and gas industry their biggest supporters!

The Levilized Cost of Electricity LCOE clearly show wind and solar are some of the lowest cost new electrcity sources.

That's why China and India and much of the world is racing ahead with a lot solar because its cheaper.

And the southern prairies are great places for wind and solar production. That's why there is so much of it in Alberta.

What is my point?
Well you talk about SaskPower having troubles keeping the lights on due to aging infrastructure but you not willing to spend the extra money to create a back up power system based on your much ballyhooed lithium batteries so that you are self sufficient in the event of a power outage. This would be the same system required on a much larger scale to make solar a viable replacement of existing dependable base load power but no one including you spends the money when installing solar panels to build a complete stand alone 24 hrs a day 365 days a year system, that simple.

[chuckChuck]

Hamloc you don't need to have lithium batteries on a large scale.

You can also use pumped hydro and compressed air.

You need backup to cover the predictable shortfall of intermittent renewables.

Several countries in Europe already have far larger shares of renewable electricity production in their system, so it can be done.

How many renewables will depend on a lot of factors.

In Manitoba Quebec and BC they already have large amounts of renewable hydro.

But we don't even hear that this is a viable option when its already happening in many countries.

Thats because some western provincial governments are making political decisions in favour of fossil fuels instead of good business plans.

[chuckChuck]

Hamloc its not one or the other! its all of the above! so get over your idea that you can't have renewables and a reliable system. You already have that in Alberta! Or did you forget that too? LOL

[Hamloc]

Hamloc you don't need to have lithium batteries on a large scale.

You can also use pumped hydro and compressed air.

You need backup to cover the predictable shortfall of intermittent renewables.

Several countries in Europe already have far larger shares of renewable electricity production in their system, so it can be done.

How many renewables will depend on a lot of factors.

In Manitoba Quebec and BC they already have large amounts of renewable hydro.

But we don't even hear that this is a viable option when its already happening in many countries.

Thats because some western provincial governments are making political decisions in favour of fossil fuels instead of good business plans.

Have I ever said that hydro wasn’t a dependable source of electricity?

[chuckChuck]

No, but you don't want at accept that other intermittent renewable forms of energy are a good investment.

Alberta has lots already. So does Texas and North Dakota. So what's wrong with you guys who think they don't work? LOL

Again it's not one or the other! We can do both, reduce emissions and save money.

If I can save money on my farm with relatively high cost small scale solar surely the utility scale renewables are a good investment at their much better economies of scale.

[Grain Farmer]

Cc it's like buying a new 100 k vehicle because it will get 1 mpg more than you current one.
30 yrs to recoup the investment.

[furrowtickler]

Only in it for the free ride , blatantly obvious with zero of their own $ in battery storage
no different than the food stamp ticktoc clowns whining that that can’t get food stamps posting with fancy cell phones , cars they can’t afford, hair and nails done to the 9’s and are pouting they can’t get free food lol . What a frightening joke society has become
Drop the latest I phone , and weekly trips to the pedicure, hair stylist and manicure, and feed your fukin family
Amd Chuck , invest in battery storage on your own dime or STFU about all this b/s already

[furrowtickler]

Oh and Chuck … go buy a true EV
you blasted the Ram EV truck , explains a lot you hypocrite
Telling all others to do something you won’t do cause it simply make zero sense

[chuckChuck]

For the price of a new modest rapidly depreciating pickup that never pays for itself, I locked in at least 25 years of producing my own electricity at a low price well below the cost of Sask Power!

I wrote 90% of it off in the first year as a farm depreciation expense.

How can you argue against that?

25 - 30 years is the lifespan of most utility scale fossil fuel generation plants before they need major rebuilds or upgrades.

The original investment will be recouped in about 10 years and the next 15 years or more delivers really low cost electricity.

It's not a big money maker compared to $700 - $1200 acre that the farmer in Alberta is getting with hosting a utility scale solar farm on his land.

But it's a good solid investment and reduces my carbon emissions.

But of course the arm chair pundits and naysayers with no solar still don't think solar works! LOL

1000s of farms across the country know better!

The last ag census showed that over 10,000 farms have renewable energy systems on their farms. Mostly solar!

Including many irrigation farms in Alberta.

But you guys are still sure they are all wrong?

You can lead them to water but you can't makem drink!

[Hamloc]

For the price of a new modest rapidly depreciating pickup that never pays for itself, I locked in at least 25 years of producing my own electricity at a low price well below the cost of Sask Power!

I wrote 90% of it off in the first year as a farm depreciation expense.

How can you argue against that?

25 - 30 years is the lifespan of most utility scale fossil fuel generation plants before they need major rebuilds or upgrades.

The original investment will be recouped in about 10 years and the next 15 years or more delivers really low cost electricity.

It's not a big money maker compared to $700 - $1200 acre that the farmer in Alberta is getting with hosting a utility scale solar farm on his land.

But it's a good solid investment and reduces my carbon emissions.

But of course the arm chair pundits and naysayers with no solar still don't think solar works! LOL

1000s of farms across the country know better!

The last ag census showed that over 10,000 farms have renewable energy systems on their farms. Mostly solar!

Including many irrigation farms in Alberta.

But you guys are still sure they are all wrong?

You can lead them to water but you can't makem drink!

A typical socialist. Preaching about the affordability of solar. His solar system that when it was installed roughly 30% of the original cost was subsidized and then he writes off 90% of the rest of the investment as depreciation. So the government basically bought the system.

Then he tells us how fantastic it is that companies installing utility scale solar are paying $700-$1200 an acre to rent good productive farmland to cover with Chinese solar panels. I am curious Chuck2 do you have a son or daughter that wants to farm? Do you think they could pay $700 an acre and make money farming? Of course not. But let’s promote running sheep under the solar panels. How many people do you know Chuck2 that want to run sheep? The running of sheep under solar panels is just the environuts way of pretending the dirt under the panels is still useful.