Spain | More renewables to continue lowering costs

[cropgrower]

This is related to topic cc , clearly shows the more wind and solar the higher the cost to consumer , how do you manage to be so wrong on every subject ?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

This is related to topic cc , clearly shows the more wind and solar the higher the cost to consumer , how do you manage to be so wrong on every subject ?

Like any narcissist, Chuck is never wrong.
He just moved the goalposts and continues his unbroken record of never admitting to having fallen for another scam.

In this case, he has moved the goal posts from cheaper electricity to lower cost of generation. As if that is of any utility to the consumer who is stuck paying multiple times more than necessary for less reliable energy.

[chuckChuck]

More whining from Absurd 5?

You lost the argument long ago but you just won't admit it.

And wind an solar are not worthless when they are not generating. You can easily store significant amounts of solar and wind energy. Batteries, pumped hydro, compressed air, gravity storage.

And most of the year, lots of the demand occurs when the wind and sun are available especially matched to AC demand.

And you don't need to cover all demand with wind and solar. At this point its not either renewables or fossil fuels.

But you some of you idiots go so far as to say that neither wind nor solar work at all! What a laugh!

Toyota and BYD are making nice $18000 SUVs in China.

Toyota will have a 1000 km solid state battery in a couple of years that can be recharged in a few minutes.

But some of you brainiacs still think that gas and diesel ICEs are the future of consumer transportation?

Only oil producers who don't like better technology and cheaper competition think like that.

Absurd 5 still thinks pumping more CO2 in the atmosphere is a good thing! A real fossil from the jurassic era!

Agrisilly at its finest!

[blackpowder]

No one said gas and diesel are the future.
Why mention $18000 evs made in China when you won't let them in?
U hate the oil companies but support our car companies?
Easy storage of electricity is as of yet a lie.
If you need AI assistance, just don't bother.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Welcome back chuck. I was beginning to worry that the nurses had taken pity on you cut off your internet access so you would stop self harming like the above post.

But no, instead, you just spent 9 days of research trying to disprove the established fact that the cheapest generation always results in the most expensive electricity. Failing that, you resorted to repeating all the same tired propaganda.

For how many years have you been promising solid state batteries are right around the corner?

How much of your imaginary solar energy are you able to "easily store"? And how easy is it to pay for that easy storage?

You keep claiming that wind and solar don't need to cover all demand. Have you not heard of net zero? Did you know that Canada is committed to net zero, and apparently we aren't going to build hydro or nuclear to accomplish that?

[chuckChuck]

A5, Mercedes all ready has a solid state battery in one of its cars for testing! And Toyota is not far behind. But in your narrow world view, technology never improves?



Toyota’s all-solid-state EV battery plans just got a lift from Japan’s oil giant


([url]https://electrek.co/author/peterjohnson/[/url]) Peter Johnson ([url]https://electrek.co/author/peterjohnson/[/url]) | Feb 27 2025 - 9:34 am PT ([url]https://electrek.co/2025/02/27/toyotas-all-solid-state-ev-batteries-just-got-a-lift/#comments[/url])

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Japanese oil giant, Idemitsu Kosan, is building a new large-scale lithium sulfide plant that will supply the raw material for Toyota’s ([url]https://electrek.co/guides/toyota/[/url]) upcoming all-solid-state EV batteries.
New plant will supply Toyota’s all-solid-state EV batteries

Toyota has been promising to launch all-solid-state EV batteries for years, but those plans may finally be coming together.
Idemitsu announced on Thursday it will build a large-scale production plant for lithium sulfide, a raw material used in all-solid-state EV batteries.
All-solid-state batteries, often called the “holy grail” of EV battery tech, promise to deliver drastic improvements in driving range, charging speeds, and energy density. As the name implies, they feature a solid electrolyte rather than traditional lithium-ion batteries, which contain a liquid electrolyte.


Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry (METI) has already approved the planned construction site. It will cost around 21.3 billion yen ($142 million) and was deemed as a “plan for ensuring supply of storage batteries.”

Idemitsu aims to mass produce all-solid state batteries in 2027 and 2028. The plant will be able to produce 1,000 metric tons of lithium sulphide annually.
Idemitsu’s value chain for solid electrolytes used in all-solid-state EV batteries (Source: Idemitsu) The company’s executive officer Tetsuji Mishina told the media (via Reuters ([url]https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/japans-idemitsu-build-lithium-sulphide-plant-help-support-toyotas-ev-plans-2025-02-27/[/url])) at its oil refinery in China, where it will build the new facility.
Mishina also said Toyota would be its first customer before it plans to expand to others later. Toyota and Idemitsu have been working together since 2023 ([url]https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/corporate/39865919.html[/url]) to develop solid electrolytes for the mass production of all-solid-state EV batteries.
Toyota EV battery roadmap (Source: Toyota) The new plant is another step in the right direction, part of Idemitsu and Toyota’s plans to commercialize all-solid-state EV batteries in 2027 to 2028.
In September, Toyota was granted a METI certification ([url]https://electrek.co/2024/09/09/toyotas-all-solid-state-ev-battery-plans-get-green-light-japan/[/url]), which gave it the green light to build the new batteries in Japan.
Toyota and Lexus EV concepts (Source: Toyota) The approval comes as Japan looks to wean itself off dependence on China or South Korea for batteries and establish a stable local supply chain. Toyota and Idemitsu are among several leading Japanese companies investing a combined $7 billion (1 trillion yen) in domestic battery production.
Electrek’s Take

Will Toyota actually launch EVs powered by all-solid-state batteries? They have been touting the new battery tech for years, but it seems to have made some progress recently.

Meanwhile, others are already getting a head start. Mercedes-Benz began testing the “world’s first” production EV ([url]https://electrek.co/2025/02/24/mercedes-tests-first-solid-state-battery-ev-with-621-miles-range/[/url]) powered by solid-state batteries earlier this month.

Through its partnership with US-based Factorial Energy and Mercedes AMG High-Performance Powertrains (HPP), the company tested a slightly modified EQS with over 621 miles of driving range. Mercedes said it was “the first car powered by a lithium-metal solid-state battery on the road.”

Factorial is working with other major OEMs, including Stellantis. Next year, Stellantis plans to launch a series of electric Dodge Chargers ([url]https://electrek.co/2024/10/23/dodge-charger-ev-getting-solid-state-batteries-2026/[/url]) powered by Factorials solid-state batteries.

Honda, Hyundai, and let’s not forget global battery leaders CATL and BYD, are also racing to launch ([url]https://electrek.co/2025/02/17/byd-confirms-evs-all-solid-state-batteries-2027/[/url]) the promising new battery tech.
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